2010年版三國演義電視劇9-11集評論

Oh man girls are dangerous weapons

哦，伙計們，女孩是危險的武器。

dong zhuo rules the country like a gangster

董卓像強(qiáng)盜一樣統(tǒng)治著整個國家。

A series based on a book written 500 years ago based on events 1500 years before that

根據(jù)500年前寫的一本書改編的系列電視劇，其小說是根據(jù)其1500年前發(fā)生的事件改編而成。

This series is stellar. I'd say it's on par with HBO's Rome and Horatio Hornblower. Was this popular in China? How was such a political drama permitted for viewership? Here in the U.S. we have a different kind of censorship: I.E. this would be considered too "smart" for the proles and would not be shown on regular television.

這個系列是一流的。我想說它和HBO的羅馬和霍雷肖·霍恩布洛爾系列電視劇不相上下。這在中國很流行嗎?這樣一部政治劇是如何被允許讓觀眾觀看的?在美國，我們有著不同的審查制度:也就是說，這對無產(chǎn)者來說太“聰明”了，不會在普通電視上播出的。

Lesson that very few men have learned since the dawn of time: " Never get emotional over a bitch!"

從古至今，很少有男人能明白這樣的教訓(xùn):“永遠(yuǎn)不要為婊子動情!”

Show some respect, dude! Diaochan did something 800.000 men couldn't manage: Fuck both Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu!

給我點尊重，伙計們!貂蟬做了一件80萬人做不到的事：“干”倒董卓和呂布!

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第10集
王允滿懷喜悅回府，故人陳宮已等候多時。他道出了王允的紅顏連環(huán)計，并指出呂布空有勇絕天下的武力，可以為智者所用。席間，呂布慌張闖入，王陳二人對其表以大義，申明利害。呂布指天發(fā)誓，要為天下除掉此賊。數(shù)日后，王允等眾大臣假意推舉董卓稱帝，登基之日，王允奉旨討賊，呂布將董卓當(dāng)眾刺死。長安沉浸在一片勝利的喜悅之中，情緒亢奮的王允沒有聽從陳宮的建議，拒絕了李榷、郭汜二將的乞降。李郭二人孤注一擲，進(jìn)攻疏于防備的長安城，生擒漢獻(xiàn)帝，王允墜樓殉國。陳宮直奔呂布處，勸呂布聽他建議，謀求大業(yè)。徐州牧陶謙禮待曹操之父曹嵩，希望巴結(jié)曹操，以保徐州安全。孰料弄巧成拙，禍福立變，曹嵩在離去的途中被護(hù)行的部將圖財害命。

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Wang Yun is a fool. He knows how to win the game but doesn't know how to use it. All of his scheming and Diao Chan's sacrifice was in vain.

王允是個傻瓜。他知道如何贏得比賽，但不知道如何繼續(xù)利用它。他的所有陰謀和貂蟬的犧牲都變得徒勞了。

Even the strongest mighty tiger has its weaknesses "Diaochan."

即使是最強(qiáng)大的老虎也有它的弱點：“貂蟬”。

i really like this dong zhou character , aside from being a bad guy and cruel .. a lot of his line's are funny .. he got some good jokes in him lol

我真的很喜歡董卓這個角色，除了是個壞人還很殘忍，他的許多臺詞都很滑稽，他身上也有些笑料，哈哈。

All that Wang Yun did went in vain. What an Idiot.

王允所做的一切都白費了。真是個白癡。
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Exactly, before Kongming comes from the heaven Liu Bei is just such a loser, running everywhere... if he can obtain Gongtai or even any of top20 strategists, his three brothers will get the right way to fight. Therefore when Xu Shu appears Liu acts like falling in love with that adviser...HaH

準(zhǔn)確地說，在孔明從天而降之前，劉備只是個失敗者，到處逃跑……如果他能得到陳宮，甚至是20強(qiáng)謀士中的任何一個，他的三個兄弟都能找到正確的勝利方式。所以當(dāng)徐庶出現(xiàn)的時候，劉備就好像愛上了那個謀士……哈哈。

In my op Cheng Gong has already got his best lord, Lu Bu. There are too many brilliant advicers in three kingdoms especially in Wei, Zhuge Liang in Shu, and Zhou Yu , Lu Su in Wu, too hard to find a place for he.

自認(rèn)為，陳宮已經(jīng)得到了他最好的主公呂布。三國有太多才華橫溢的謀士，特別是魏方，而蜀國有諸葛亮、吳國有周瑜、魯肅，很難再為他找到合適的位置。

Cheng Gong is really really regretful.Never found a good lord to serve.If people could listen his advices .. maybe 3 kingdoms history might be much different.

陳宮真的很遺憾，從來沒有找到一個好的主公來服侍。如果那些主公能好好聽從他的建議……也許三國歷史可能大不相同。

Kinda feel bad for Gongtai he keeps getting mixed up with the wrong people at the wrong time.

陳宮總是在錯誤的時間和錯誤的人混在一起。
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Poor Gongtai, always the smartest in the room but no one ever listens.

可憐的陳宮，總是房間里最聰明的，卻沒有人愿意聽他的意見。

This was a really good episode. I wish there had been one small scene setting up Wang Yun's arrogance though. Power corrupted him so fast we didn't have any chance to sympathize with him. It would have been better if the audience saw a little of themselves in his final mistake.
He felt like he had finally won, that his nightmare was over, and he just wanted to believe that now everything would be OK. I think we can all relate to that, and I wish the scene had encouraged some more sympathy with him in that foolish decision. Then there would have been more emotional impact when we saw just how wrong he was.

這一集真的很棒。不過，我倒希望在展示王允的傲慢能有一個小小的遞進(jìn)場景。權(quán)力使他墮落得如此之快，以至于我們沒有什么機(jī)會去同情他。如果觀眾能從他最后的錯誤中看到一點屬于自己的影子，那就更好了。
他覺得自己終于贏了，噩夢結(jié)束了，他相信從現(xiàn)在開始一切都會好起來。我想我們都能體會到這一點，我想這個遞進(jìn)場景會讓人們對他作出那個愚蠢的決定多一些理解和同情。那么，當(dāng)我們看到他是多么的錯誤時，就會更加的發(fā)人深省。

With the death of Dong Zhuo all the doors seemed to be opening for Wang Yun. Ironic that his death lead to the destruction of everything he tried to fix.

董卓死后，所有的門似乎都向王允敞開。具有諷刺意味的是，隨著他的死亡，導(dǎo)致他試圖修復(fù)的一切都被毀了。

You really feel bad for Lü Bu. He was treacherous, yeah... But love was used against him and no man can resist the love of a beautiful woman. Every man, no matter how strong or capable, is weak to matters of the heart.

你真替呂布難過。他很叛逆，是啊…但是拿愛情來對付他...沒有男人能抗拒漂亮女人的愛。每個人，無論多么堅強(qiáng)，能干，在對內(nèi)心的事情方面都是軟弱的。

21:24 look how happy Dong Zhou is, this is strengthens my belief that all he really wanted was just for the people around him to like him. he originally wanted power but found it cold and lonely, it's only when he has people around him who try to suck up to him and act nice around him that you can see genuin happiness on his face.

21:24你看董卓多快樂，這更堅定了我的想法：他真正想要的只是周圍的人喜歡他，他最初想要權(quán)力，但他發(fā)現(xiàn)它是冰冷和孤獨的，只有當(dāng)他周圍有人試圖奉承他，愿意圍著他轉(zhuǎn)，你就可以看到真正的幸福在他的臉上。

This show is so much better than the copy paste Hollywood crap now a days!

這電視劇比好萊塢的復(fù)制粘貼的垃圾好多了!

I love how, much like Game of Thrones, the Romance novels are unafraid to show people 'winning' and then losing everything in an instant. Like Dong Zhuo, at the moment when he was at his zenith, about to become Emperor, it gets snatched away. The same with Wang, and indeed Lu Bu.

我喜歡的是，就像《權(quán)力的游戲》一樣，三國演義毫不畏懼地展現(xiàn)出人們在瞬間就“贏了”，然后又瞬間失去了一切。就像董卓，在他的鼎盛時期，即將成為皇帝，然后喪失一切。王允也是，呂布也是。
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Dong Zhuo is an antagonist in the earlier episodes, but he’s not irredeemably bad. A poor statesman and bloodthirsty, true, but he was more interested in consolidating power than any deliberate acts of evil for the sake of being evil. In comparison, Dong Zhuo just a schoolyard bully and Yuan Shao is a criminal.

董卓在前幾集里是個反派，但他也不是個無可救藥的壞人。誠然，他是一個糟糕的政治家，嗜血成性，但他更感興趣的是鞏固權(quán)力，而不是為了作惡而故意作惡。相比之下，董卓只能算是校園惡霸，而袁紹則是大罪犯。

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第11集
曹嵩遇害的消息傳來，曹操悲痛欲絕。而謀士荀彧道破了曹操的心思：此乃蒼天送徐州給曹操！曹操哀兵出師，親率大軍征討徐州。陶謙披麻戴孝率子請罪，曹操對其毫不動容，聲言三日后拿下徐州！陶謙意識到曹操復(fù)仇是假，取城是真，于是給袁紹袁術(shù)等發(fā)送乞援書信，而這些人態(tài)度不謀而合：虛言推諉，坐觀成敗。投拜在北平太守公孫瓚手下的劉備力諫援救陶謙，劉備領(lǐng)著關(guān)、張、趙以及僅有的千余部下，星夜趕往徐州。陶謙對劉備的大義之舉感動異常，想將徐州讓與劉備。劉備執(zhí)意不領(lǐng)，關(guān)張對大哥多有嗔怪。劉備嚴(yán)辭告之：寧可粉身碎骨，絕不趁人之危行此無義！劉備的情懷令關(guān)、張感動嘆息。

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"I don't need an army, I need your Zhao Yun."
There's a guy who knows how to win a war.

“我不需要軍隊，我需要你趙云?！?br /> 這是一個知道如何贏得戰(zhàn)爭的人。

Finally Zhao Yun join Lord Liu Bei I'm so happy.

終于趙云加入了劉備的行列，我真高興。

Russia -> Crimea (reason = people's choices(votes), real reason = you(Ukraine) wanna join EU? I take your land).
CaoCao -> XuZhou (reason = Father's death (revenge), real reason = you kill my dad? I take your land).

俄羅斯并吞克里米亞。(原因=人民的選擇(投票)，真正的原因=你(烏克蘭)想加入歐盟?我拿走你的土地)。
曹操奪取徐州。(原因=父親的死(復(fù)仇)，真正的原因=你殺了我的父親?那我拿走你的土地)。

All leaders who want to become stronger in this world, today and thousands of years ago in china, require strong vision, values, and most importantly ambition. The three kingdoms that remained during this struggle each had these to an extreme. While we see Liu Bei utilizing his values of kindess and virtues to win the people, is he wrong for saying these things? He is at a larger risk if he failed to keep is promises. In that respect, he is marvelous

所有想要在這個世界上變得更強(qiáng)大的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人，無論是今天還是幾千年前的中國，都需要強(qiáng)大的愿景、價值觀，以及最重要的雄心壯志。在這場紛爭中剩下的三個王國，每一個都把這些發(fā)揮到了極致。當(dāng)我們看到劉備用他的善良和美德來贏得人民的時候，你能說他的行為愧對于他說的話嗎?如果他不能兌現(xiàn)承諾，他將丟失掉更多的東西。在這方面，他是了不起的。

But don't forget Liu Bei is ambitious too.Author Luo Guan Zhong made him so peoples' hero but historically he's just another warlord but uses different method than Cao.Kindness.

但別忘了劉備也很有野心。作家羅貫中把他塑造成了人們心目中的英雄，但從歷史上來看，他只不過是另一個軍閥，只不過使用的方法不同于曹操罷了。

Shu is awesome because of people like Zhao Yun, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei and yes even Zhuge Liang. Even if Liu Bei was as ambitious as the other lords, the guy practically rose from nothing and established a kingdom of his own - that's why I think Shu is so cool.

蜀國之所以了不起，是因為有趙云、關(guān)羽、張飛等人，甚至還有諸葛亮。即使劉備變得和其他貴族一樣野心勃勃，但他實際上是白手起家，就建立了屬于自己的王國——這就是我認(rèn)為蜀國很酷的原因。

I admit that I haven't read the book or know the history in detail outside of the game and a few wikipedia page but if I were to judge and analyze Liu Bei by this series so far, I think he is the real villain. Outwardly good but actually very crafty.
He refused to accept the province because he knew he would be trapped between Cao, the Yuan brothers and everyone else. Its no use to have a strategic place if you get surrounded by enemies with no ally. By refusing, he would make a good name for himself, making his next step of gaining a defensible province much easier as he can get ally easier. Plus, even if he take a city somewhere by force, all he need to do is show how "benevolent" he is compared to their old lord and everyone would cheer for him.
Cao Cao is the real hero! Don't believe the propaganda, folks!

我承認(rèn)，除了通過游戲和維基百科頁面了解過，我還沒有讀過這本三國演義，我也不知道關(guān)于劉備的詳細(xì)歷史，但如果讓我通過這個系列電視劇來評判和分析劉備，我認(rèn)為他才是真正的反派。外表很好，實際上很狡猾。
他拒絕接受這個省，因為他知道這將導(dǎo)致他會被困在曹、袁兄弟中間。如果你沒有盟友，又被敵人包圍，去擁有這樣的戰(zhàn)略城池也是沒有用的。但通過拒絕，他可以為自己贏得一個好名聲，使他下一步獲得一個可防御的省份變得容易得多，因為他可以更容易地獲得盟友。此外，即使他強(qiáng)行奪取一座城市，只要他所表現(xiàn)的與老主公更加“仁慈”，那么每個人都會為他歡呼。
曹操才是真正的英雄!不要相信宣傳，伙計們!

Men like Cao Cao prevent future bloodshed by uniting people under a strong ruler. For, when weaker men rule....others ALWAYS conspire to take control from them. And so, just as it is with nature, so too as it is with human beings! A strong lion is good, because his mere presence prevents others lions from conspiring to murdering the kittens, thus causing further chaos with their attempts!

像曹操這樣的人可以把人民團(tuán)結(jié)在一個強(qiáng)大的統(tǒng)治者之下，以防止將來發(fā)生流血性的事件。因為，當(dāng)弱者統(tǒng)治時……其他人總是會密謀從他們手中奪取控制權(quán)。大自然如此，人類亦如此!一個強(qiáng)壯的領(lǐng)頭獅子是好的，因為他的存在阻止了其他獅子陰謀的殺害小獅子，從而導(dǎo)致進(jìn)一步的混亂!

History has proven that "virtue, honor & principles" will NOT win over the people. For, exactly how many men have come to rule en empire in such a way? Exactly, NONE! The strong, cunning & ruthless bring peace & stability to a community by uniting it with the other communities they've conquered! That's the reality of natures true design. The strong, rule the weak...

歷史證明，“美德、榮耀、理念”并不能贏得人民的擁護(hù)。因為，歷史上多少人以這種方式來統(tǒng)治帝國呢?完全沒有!強(qiáng)大、狡詐、無情的人通過團(tuán)結(jié)他們所征服的社區(qū)，給一個個地區(qū)帶來和平與穩(wěn)定!這就是自然界設(shè)計的現(xiàn)實。強(qiáng)者統(tǒng)治弱者…
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Too often, the worst demons ever born have ruled large empires. Cao cao being one example, genghis, mughals, ottomans, colonialists et al.
2000 years ago or today, nothing has changed....just the methods.

有史以來最邪惡的惡魔往往統(tǒng)治著龐大的帝國。曹操就是一個例子，成吉思汗，莫臥兒，奧斯曼，殖民主義者等等。
2000年前或今天，什么都沒有改變……只有這個辦法。

Liu Bei was always the realest most kindest character in the Three Kingdoms

劉備一直是三國中最真實、最善良的人物

I should find the time to read the book to better understand the characters ..Liu Bei so far seems very noble and wise.

我應(yīng)該找時間讀這本書，以便我更好地理解書中的人物。到目前為止，劉備似乎非常的高貴和明智。