芬蘭囚犯住在開放式監(jiān)獄里，在那里他們可以學習技術(shù)技能
Prisoners In Finland Live In Open Prisons Where They Learn Tech Skills
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芬蘭的許多囚犯生活在 "開放式監(jiān)獄 "中，他們可以擁有一輛車，可以外出工作或上學，可以接待過夜客人?，F(xiàn)在，該國正在資助教育項目，讓囚犯學習人工智能等技術(shù)技能。
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Prisoners In Finland Live In Open Prisons Where They Learn Tech Skills
芬蘭囚犯住在開放式監(jiān)獄，在那里他們學習技術(shù)技能
芬蘭囚犯住在開放式監(jiān)獄，在那里他們學習技術(shù)技能
Many inmates in Finland live in “open prisons,” where they are allowed to own a vehicle, leave for work or school, and host overnight guests. Now, the country is funding educational programs where prisoners learn technology skills like artificial intelligence.
芬蘭的許多囚犯生活在 "開放式監(jiān)獄 "中，他們可以擁有一輛車，可以外出工作或上學，可以接待過夜客人?，F(xiàn)在，該國正在資助教育項目，讓囚犯學習人工智能等技術(shù)技能。
芬蘭的許多囚犯生活在 "開放式監(jiān)獄 "中，他們可以擁有一輛車，可以外出工作或上學，可以接待過夜客人?，F(xiàn)在，該國正在資助教育項目，讓囚犯學習人工智能等技術(shù)技能。
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Finland's prisons are nicer than America's public schools.
芬蘭的監(jiān)獄比美國的公立學校還要好。
Same in sweden with our own schools and we probably have the worst prisons in the nordic...
也比瑞典的公立學校好，而且我們的監(jiān)獄還是北歐最差的......
Looks like a vacation home
看起來像是度假屋
you think Finland real country?
one small town in USA have much more population than entire Finland
你真的覺得芬蘭是一個真正的國家？
美國一個小鎮(zhèn)的人口都比整個芬蘭的人口要多得多
Ta Ab not a small town, a major city.
Ta Ab 不是一個小鎮(zhèn)，是一個大城市。
@Ta Ab By your logic.... Finland is not a real country because of a comparison you made to an American town/city?
I've seen American towns with a population of 64. Micro-nations are a thing as well.
@Ta Ab按照你的邏輯....芬蘭不是一個真正的國家，就因為你拿美國的城鎮(zhèn)/城市與之做比較？
我還見過人口只有64個人的美國城鎮(zhèn)呢。微型國家也是國家。
America's prisons are nicer than America's public schools
美國的監(jiān)獄也比美國的公立學校好
@Ta Ab Finland has a population of 5.5 million people. Your small towns do not have that many people
@Ta Ab 芬蘭有550萬人口。 你的小鎮(zhèn)沒有那么多人
That's because Finland's prisons are trying to prepare prisoners for a future career while American schools prepare students for prison.
這是因為芬蘭的監(jiān)獄正在努力為囚犯準備未來的職業(yè)生涯，而美國的學校則在為學生準備監(jiān)獄。
That’s bc Finland would rather invest into their people unlike republicans and democrats who support war profiteering, space profiteering, healthcare profiteering, bailouts of big corporations, playing captain America all over the world. So yea republicans and democrats get your stuff together and stop voting for democrats and republicans!
那是因為芬蘭寧愿投資到他們的人民身上，而不像共和黨和民主黨支持戰(zhàn)爭暴利，太空暴利，醫(yī)療暴利，救助大公司，在全世界扮演美國隊長。所以啊，共和主義者和民主主義者清醒過來，不要再投民主黨人和共和黨人的票了!
Safer too. In American high schools, you’re afraid of getting shot at random moment
也更安全。在美國的高中里，你害怕隨時被槍擊
So, I fly to Finland, kill someone, and get best free education/full accommodation on taxpayers' money.. CAN SANE PEOPLE REALISE HOW FUCKED UP THIS IS?!!!
所以，我飛到芬蘭，殺個人，然后用納稅人的錢得到最好的免費教育/全住宿... ...理智的人會意識到這是多么的操蛋嗎？！！！
@M K I mean every other 1st world country works like that they seem to be doing very well
@M K 我覺得每個第一世界國家都是這樣的，他們似乎運行得很好
They're also nicer than India's any school. I hate being a part of the indian education system
他們也比印度任何學校都好。我討厭成為印度教育體系的一部分
Nha thay are better than UK schools
他們也比英國學校好
@M K you'll never understand.
@M K 你是永遠都不會明白的。
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The US public school systems are not awful but they are very disappointing compared to where the country stands on the world stage. Students are typically just expected to know basic curriculum stuff and are not being molded for college or real life work it is just all about making money off of testing. Blame capitalism for diminishing the education system.
美國的公立學校系統(tǒng)并不糟糕，但與國家在世界舞臺上的地位相比，它們非常令人失望。學生們通常只是被期望知道基本課程的東西，而不是被塑造為為大學或現(xiàn)實生活中的工作做準備，所有的測試都只是關(guān)于賺錢的。要怪就怪資本主義削弱了教育系統(tǒng)。
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@William Reyes maybe. Im lucky to live in a nice place but even i’ve seen some sketchy characters in my high school. One of them got arrested in a drive-by shooting last year. Another incident in college where some guy got jealous of me over this girl I was close to. Threatened to kill me and was arrested on his way to campus with a gun.
@William Reyes 也許吧，我很幸運能住在一個好地方，但即使是我的高中，我也見過一些草莽人物。其中一個在去年的一起駕車槍擊案中被捕。另一個事件在大學里，有人因為我身邊的女孩而嫉妒我。威脅要殺了我，并在他帶著槍去校園的路上被逮捕。
I'm not sure why all the unfortunate attitude towards America, America is a great nation and we do a lot for the world in humanitarian services and our people overwhelmingly do more missionary work and support for poor nations than any other nation does. Our prison system isn't a solitary isolation system but for inmates that are too dangerous for general population it is used to protect others. Im very much for a better system but its awful to see my nation hated by so many people when we have so much good here
我不知道為什么這么多人對美國有這么大的意見，美國是一個偉大的國家，我們在人道主義服務(wù)方面為世界做了很多事情，我們的人民絕大多數(shù)做了更多的傳教工作，對貧窮國家的支持比任何其他國家都多。我們的監(jiān)獄系統(tǒng)并不是一個單獨的隔離系統(tǒng)，而是關(guān)押對于對一般人來說太危險的囚犯，它是用來保護他人的。我非常支持一個更好的監(jiān)獄系統(tǒng)，但是看到我的國家被這么多的人所憎恨真的很糟糕，明明我們也有很多很好的地方。
John: I graduated from MIT
Brian: I was released from Finland prison.
Recruiter: Brian, you're hired.
約翰：我畢業(yè)于麻省理工學院
布萊恩：我從芬蘭監(jiān)獄被釋放。
招聘人員：布萊恩，你被錄用了。
Finnish person gets life sentence prison be like:
"OH NO!!!"
"Anyway"
芬蘭人被判終身監(jiān)禁時：
“哦，不?。?！”
“隨便吧”
honestly the finnish prison system makes me want to break the law on purpose
老實說，芬蘭的監(jiān)獄系統(tǒng)讓我想故意違法
even still then i would wanna do something small bc i dont want anyone to be heartbroken plus this is such a good system
即使是這樣，我也不想做哪怕再小的惡，因為我不想讓任何人心碎，而且這是一個很好的系統(tǒng)
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@Mini Duckmate yeah, I agree. It's like they're using the 'We're not angry at all, we're just disappointed' approach which is usually so much more impactful at getting someone to change their behaviour.
@Mini Duckmate 是的，我同意。這就像他們在使用“我們一點都不生氣，我們只是對你感到失望”的方法，這種方法通常對讓某人改變他們的行為有更大的影響。
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@Abha Chatterjee No it's not going to change psychopaths
@Abha Chatterjee 不，這無法改變精神病患者
@50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj No, of course not. This would only work on people who have a conscience and are able to experience guilt. No one can use guilt to fix a psychopath.
@50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj是的，當然不能。這只會對那些有良知并能感到內(nèi)疚的人起作用。任何人都不能用內(nèi)疚來修復一個精神病患者。
@Abha Chatterjee Yup, that's what I was thinking as well.
@Abha Chatterjee 是的，我也是這么想的。
@Abha Chatterjee that's true actually! Our prison system is based on rehabilitating the prisoners do that they can have a chance at a better life after prison and actually adapt back into our society!
@Abha Chatterjee 說得對！我們的監(jiān)獄系統(tǒng)是建立在改造囚犯的基礎(chǔ)上的，他們可以有機會在監(jiān)獄后過上更好的生活，并實際適應(yīng)我們的社會！
@xVetsku _ Life sentence can be for life but after 12 years a board will look if you can be released back to society.
@xVetsku _ 無期徒刑說是終身監(jiān)禁，但12年后，一個委員會將考察你是否可以被釋放回社會。
The american prison system has an ulterior motive, Finland as a country isn't corrupt. They take care of their people. The republicans tell you how bad socialism would be. Bernie and AOC wanted this? Lets pick Biden then!!! Sounds suspect, and I suspect the evolution of slavery is why everything is the way it is here
美國的監(jiān)獄系統(tǒng)是別有用心的，芬蘭作為一個國家并不腐敗。他們照顧他們的人民。共和黨人告訴你社會主義會有多.糕。伯尼和AOC（Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 亞歷山德里婭·奧卡西奧-科爾特斯）想要這個？那就選拜登吧?。。∵@聽起來很可疑，我懷疑現(xiàn)在的美國是奴隸制的演變，所以這里的一切才會變成這樣
@Abha Chatterjee psychopaths can still get fixed, that's why we have psychoanalysis along with psychiatry. That Finland also implemented well.
@Abha Chatterjee 精神病患者仍然可以得到修復，這就是為什么我們有精神分析和精神病學。芬蘭在這方面也執(zhí)行得很好。
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Life sentence is 15 years? You get free housing and education? If your living in the streets, sick and have no one caring for you, you'll be sure finland's prison will help you out lol. You just have to do a minor offense, like, have sex on public?
無期徒刑是15年？你會得到免費的住房和教育？如果你住在街上，生病了，卻沒有人照顧你， 那你肯定會選擇到芬蘭的監(jiān)獄幫助你走出困境哈哈哈。你只需要做一個輕微的罪行，比如，在公共場所做愛？
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@Kopie The thing is, there are virtually no people living in the streets due to the substantial welfare programs. You can get all the help that you get inside prison outside.
@Kopie 事實是，由于大量的福利計劃，幾乎沒有人住在街上。你可以在監(jiān)獄外面得到所有的幫助。
@Kurksikka Keitto Wow. I'm saving up for finland mate.
@Kurksikka Keitto哇，我準備存錢娶個芬蘭老婆了
my little cousins were murdered by their dad and he's spending only 13 years and living in a prison is very costly so dont think this system is good for every day
我的小表弟們被他們的父親謀殺了,他只關(guān)了13年的時間而且住在監(jiān)獄里是非常昂貴的，所以從來沒認為這個系統(tǒng)好過。
@niemine 17 If your little cousins dad got a life sentence, he will likely spend much more time in prison than 13 years.
@niemine 17如果你的表兄弟的父親被判終身監(jiān)禁，他在監(jiān)獄里的時間可能會比13年多得多。
Bruh this guy looks more chill than the ppl outside of prison.
噗，這家伙看起來比監(jiān)獄外的人更放松。
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Imagine being the victims family seeing this crap
想象一下受害者的家人看到這些垃圾的心情
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@Let Me Translate exactly
@Let Me Translate確實
you can be chill and murder someone don't judge a book by it's cover.
你也可以很放松然后謀殺一個人，別用封面來評判一本書。
@Let Me Translate I’m almost thinking that this guy must have murdered for an understandable reason I.e. finding out a guy sexually assaulted your daughter or caught a man cheating on your longtime wife. Has to be a reason that he’s only serving 15 years, and that they still allow him to have some freedom.
@Let Me Translate 我?guī)缀蹩梢韵胂蟮玫?，這家伙殺人的原因一定是可以理解的，比如發(fā)現(xiàn)一個男人性侵了你的女兒，或者發(fā)現(xiàn)一個男人欺騙了你的老妻。這么做一定是有原因的，他只需服15年的刑，而且他們還允許他有一些自由。
@Let Me Translate I’m sure there are high security prisons in Finland for extremely dangerous criminals. There’s no way every prisoner is allowed to stay at a place like this. Some will take that opportunity to escape.
@Let Me Translate 我相信芬蘭有高度戒備的監(jiān)獄，用來關(guān)押極其危險的罪犯。不可能每個犯人都被允許呆在這樣的地方。有些人會趁機逃跑。
Lol..yea man
哈哈哈...是的伙計
And also- can we just talk about how this guy dove in the cold lake with no hesitation? Like, you gotta pay me a couple 1000 dollars for me to do that-
還有，我們能不能談?wù)勥@個家伙是怎么毫不猶豫地跳進冰冷的湖里的？你得付我1000美元才能讓我這么做-
@Let Me Translate if someone tries attacking you with a knife and you defend yourself by killing them you could get life in prison, you don't have to be a serial killer to get life.
@Let Me Translate 如果有人試圖用刀子攻擊你，你用殺了他們來保護自己，你可能會被判無期徒刑。你不一定要成為連環(huán)殺手才能被判無期徒刑。
@Why do i look like Oat meal That's just something that Fins do
@Why do i look like Oat meal 這在芬蘭很平常（指冬泳）
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@512 Performance Literally first sentence of the video states that he is serving life sentence for murder. What you are describing is called voluntary manslaughter.
@512 Performance 從字面上看，視頻的第一句話就說他是因“謀殺罪”被判無期徒刑。你所描述的叫做“自衛(wèi)過失殺人”。
@kb_cs that's self defense, you won't probably even get in prison if prove you were just defending yourself
@kb_cs 那是自衛(wèi)，如果你證明你是在為自己正當防衛(wèi)，你可能甚至不會進監(jiān)獄
@Let Me Translate If I was the victim's family, I'd rather see my tax dollars being used to train the guy for a crime-free life, than simply covering his room & board, legal fees, etc. for God-knows how long, just to have him get out even worse & do it all again. I'm paying for it regardless, might as well get something useful out of it
@Let Me Translate 如果我是受害者的家人，我寧愿看到我的稅款被用來訓練這個家伙，讓他過上無犯罪的生活，而不是簡單地支付他的食宿費、律師費等，天知道要等多久，只是為了讓他更糟糕地出獄，然后再犯一次罪。不管怎么說我都要付錢，還不如從中得到一些有用的東西。
@just leon I wouldn't. I would gladly pay for him to root in prison
Assuming it wasn't an accidental murder or something like that, but he it was evil
@just leon 我不會，我很樂意花錢讓他在監(jiān)獄里扎根。
假設(shè)他不是意外謀殺或類似的東西，只是純粹的邪惡的。
@Ignacio Aguilar I guess you're equally evil then
@Ignacio Aguilar 那我覺得你也很邪惡
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@512 Performance The ”life” sentence is 13y here in Finland, and only how you can get more is to make more crimes while already having the sentence.
And first timers do only 1/2 of the sentence.
And first time juveniles do only 1/3 of the sentence.
So that’s why people does so much crimes cause sentences are a joke.
No matter how bad things anyone does..
And yeah as a Finn I can sure you that a normal unemployed person is having a much more worse everyday life. The inmates are in better situation and has better educational chances than a “normal” person.
So yeah, you wouldn’t believe how this reality feels like on over half a million people that are without a job.
@512 Performance在芬蘭，"無期徒刑"的刑期是13年，只有在已經(jīng)有刑期的情況下，你再去犯罪你才能獲得更多的刑期。
而初犯只需要關(guān)1/2的刑期。
而第一次犯罪的青少年只需要關(guān)1/3的刑期。
所以，這就是為什么人們做了這么多的罪行，因為判刑就是一個笑話。
無論人們做了多么糟糕的事情......
是啊，作為一個芬蘭人，我可以肯定你的說法，一個正常的失業(yè)人員有一個更糟糕的日常生活。囚犯的處境比"正常"人更好，受教育的機會也更好。
所以是的，你不會相信這個現(xiàn)實對50多萬沒有工作的人來說是什么感覺。
@Let Me Translate and how can you know who why and how he killed? Maybe he put self defence too far, or attack someone in a bar after argument and killed him without intentiot to do it, and family members of the victim could be some gang members, who knows, the fact that he is in open prison like that means he isn't treated as very dangerous inmate therefore as long as he commited crime he is most likely far from cold blooded killer with no remorse. There is two way whole situation could end, either family get their "revenge" and guy will rot in horrible prison to finally get out and most lilely commit some crimes as he wouldn't be resocialized but degenerate there, or they could try to make him a normal citizen once again and give him reasons to not go into crime, family could be not satisfied by it but general society would feel safer
@Let Me Translate你怎么能知道他殺的是誰，為什么，怎么殺的？也許他是防衛(wèi)過當，或者在酒吧里爭吵后襲擊了某人，并在無意中殺了他，而受害者的家人可能是一些幫派成員，誰知道呢，事實上，他被關(guān)在這樣的開放式監(jiān)獄里，意味著他并沒有被當作非常危險的囚犯對待，因此，雖然他犯罪了，但他很可能不是沒有悔意的冷血殺手。整個情況有兩種結(jié)局，一是受害者家屬得到他們想要的"報復"，這個家伙會在可怕的監(jiān)獄里腐爛，最后出來，很容易重新犯罪，因為他不會被重新社會接受，而是在那里墮落，或者他們可以嘗試讓他再次成為一個正常的公民，并因此不再犯罪，受害者家屬可能對此不會滿意，但社會里的普通人會感到更安全。
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@Jupiter or maybe they let him out again thinking that he has been rehabilitated and goes nuts and kills more people breaks in someone's home and kills their mother in and armed robbery. Maybe if that happens they should put him in a nicer place right?! They can say maybe we weren't given him everything he needed. We could do hypotheticals all day on this.
@Jupiter 或者他們又把他放出來了，以為他已經(jīng)改過自新，結(jié)果他之后又發(fā)瘋，殺了更多的人... ...闖進別人的家，在持槍搶劫中殺死了別人的母親。也許如果那樣的話，他們應(yīng)該把他放在一個更好的地方，對吧？！ 他們可以說也許我們沒有給他所需要的一切（所有他才會變成這樣）。我們可以做一整天的假設(shè)。
@Jupiter in America self defense is not a crime.
@Jupiter還有在美國正當防衛(wèi)不是犯罪
@Furious Finn man that's terrible to think people who don't respect the law or even human decency get treated better than people who are actually trying and struggling.
@Furious Finn 伙計，認為那些不尊重法律甚至不尊重人類尊嚴的人應(yīng)該比那些真正努力和為生計掙扎的人得到更好的待遇是可怕的。
@My Code Evolution they let him out couse his sentence ended, no matter what they think about someone, when sentence end he have to be get out. Its not a hypothesis that Finnish system works better than some other systems, its all in statistics and simple look at them will give you a hard evidence.
About self defence, I didn't talk about self defence in general but about geting too far in self defence, thats a different thing, you cannot just shoot everyone who pose some threat to you under "self defence" excuse, your doings must be justified.
Now lets take a look at evidence, so one of the statistics avaible for everyone to check: RECIIVISM RATE- Finland have one of the lowest recidivism rate in whole world, that should tell you something right? Its 35%. The lowest in Norway just a 20%, and Norway is well known for having very good and humane prisons. For example in United States its 64%. You cannot argue with that, couse this are FACTS. So no matter what you would like to do, you have to accept the truth: humane treating prisoners and giving them job opportunities drastically lower crime rate. Simple as that.
@My Code Evolution 他們放他出來是因為他的刑期結(jié)束了，不管他們怎么看一個人，當刑期結(jié)束時，他必須被釋放。這不是一個假設(shè)，芬蘭的制度比其他一些制度更好，統(tǒng)計數(shù)據(jù)就在那，簡單地看一眼可以給你一個確鑿的證據(jù)。
關(guān)于自衛(wèi)，我沒有說過一般的自衛(wèi)，而是說過火的自衛(wèi)，那是另一回事，你不能以"自衛(wèi)"為借口，向所有對你構(gòu)成威脅的人開槍，你的行為必須是合理的。
現(xiàn)在讓我們來看看證據(jù)，讓大家看看其中的一個數(shù)據(jù)。再犯率--芬蘭是世界上再犯率最低的國家之一，這應(yīng)該能說明一些問題吧？它是35%。挪威最低，只有20%，而且挪威的監(jiān)獄很好，很人性化。而在美國，它是64%。你無法與之爭論，因為這是事實。所以，無論你想做什么，你都必須接受這樣的事實：人道地對待囚犯，給他們工作機會，能大大降低犯罪率。就這么簡單。
Blm types will never learn.. so prison in the US will never be this way
黑命貴那種永遠不會學習，所以在美國的監(jiān)獄永遠不會這樣
@Jupiter we have 50 different states and different cultures and the crime rates are different in each state and local government is different.. My city Houston has about the same population Finland. I looked up the recidivism rate and it is at 20%. We have rehabilitation centers for people who have a good chance. Our economy is quite good here, cost of living is very low taxes, we have high paying jobs and we're one of the most diverse cities in America too. All of America is not the same a lot of people don't realize that though. Too many stereotypes are not good.
@Jupiter 我們有50個不同的州和不同的文化，犯罪率在每個州都是不同的，地方政府也是不同的。我所在的城市休斯頓的人口和芬蘭差不多。我查了一下累犯率，它是在20％。我們有康復中心，為有機會的人提供康復服務(wù)。我們這里的經(jīng)濟相當好，生活成本很低稅收很低，我們有高薪的工作，我們也是美國最多元化的城市之一。全美國都不一樣，很多人雖然沒有意識到這一點。太多的刻板印象不是好事。
@Let Me Translate Well when you try to move away from this savage idea of retribution and damnation, you won’t be in such a sad and psychopathic lifestyle.
@Let Me Translate 怎么說呢，當你試圖擺脫這種野蠻的報復和詛咒的想法時，你就不會處于如此悲傷和心理變態(tài)的生活方式中。
@Jotaroジョジョ how dare you use Jotaro sensei against me lol
@Jotaroジョジョ 你竟敢掛著空條承太郎的ID這么說我哈哈哈哈
Kawaii伝説
這個機會似乎并沒有給每個囚犯，我們可以看到這個人是如何盡他最大的努力學習和得到他的工作的
@No one it’s free for all citizens... not just prisoners.
@No one它對所有公民都是免費的......不僅僅是囚犯。
They said in the video that the prisoners are given the same opportunities. You’re talking about whether people take advantage of those opportunities. You don’t know how many prisoners take advantage of those opportunities. Stop judging.
他們在視頻中說，囚犯有同樣的機會。你說的是人們是否利用了這些機會。你不知道有多少囚犯利用了這些機會。別評頭論足
Kawaii伝説
TheMandalorian我沒有說任何壞話，你似乎不明白我的評論哈哈哈
If you don't want to study then don't. If you don't want to get a job then don't. I mean Finland prisoners have the freedom that I never had before 18. Where you're born is important I guess.
如果你不想學習，那就不要。
如果你不想找工作，那就不要。
芬蘭的囚犯有我18歲以前從未有過的自由。
所以你出生的地方很重要。
Thief: goes to prison for theft
Also Thief: gets Bachelors in Fine Arts
小偷：因盜竊入獄
還是這個小偷：獲得美術(shù)學士學位
He got sent to prison for stealing paintings
他因偷畫被送進監(jiān)獄
Imagine the prisoner showed such dedication in his courses just to get out and commit another murder for satisfaction
想象一下，這個囚犯在他的課程中表現(xiàn)出如此的奉獻精神，只是為了得到滿足而離開并犯下另一樁謀殺
@JJ Numbers shows that it is less likely to happen compared to other countries' prison treatment.
@JJ 數(shù)字表明，與其他國家的監(jiān)獄待遇相比，這種情況不太可能發(fā)生。
@JJ With the fairly low recidivism rate in Finland, that's unlikely.
@JJ 由于芬蘭的累犯率相當?shù)?，那是不可能的?/b>
Just casually "he's serving out a sentence for murder"
視頻說“他因為謀殺罪服刑”，只是隨便一說
The question is if this is going to make him regret anything
問題是這會不會讓他后悔
He says you should give people a chance and he's a murderer. This is disgusting
他以一個殺人犯的身份說你應(yīng)該給別人一個機會。太惡心了
@Mitchell Weymark you don’t know the circumstances. I agree with him
@Mitchell Weymark 你不知道當時的情況。我同意他的說法
@Mitchell Weymark people like you are the reason society has made no advancements
@Mitchell Weymark 像你這樣的人是社會沒有進步的原因
@Derek R - you think it’s “progress” to let people get away with murder without being punished? He’s being rewarded!
@Derek R -你認為讓人們逃脫謀殺而不受懲罰是一種“進步”嗎？他是被獎勵了！
@Sunday Missal I'm guessing the justice system and healthcare in Finland is also much better than in the US, and so they know very well what his mental state and criminal circumstances are. His chances of successfully committing another such offense are much lower than this relaxed environment implies. It's not like they'd pull the American move of "violently suppress and/or dump back on the street."
@Sunday Missal 我猜測芬蘭的司法系統(tǒng)和醫(yī)療服務(wù)也比美國好很多，所以他們很清楚他的精神狀態(tài)和犯罪情況。他再次成功犯下此類罪行的幾率要比在這種寬松的環(huán)境所暗示的低很多。他們也不會像美國人那樣采取 "暴力鎮(zhèn)壓和/或壓倒在街上"的行動。
@Finn Daly - I’m not defending the American system, but it’s a matter of justice that murderers be punished...
@Finn Daly-我不是在維護美國的制度，但要懲罰殺人犯是關(guān)乎正義的問題......
@Sunday Missal I'd adore to have a conversation with you. In the Quentin Tarantino film, ' Inglorious Basterds ' they all killed people. The righteous killed the Nazis. For a good reason.
@Sunday Missal我很想和你談?wù)?。在昆汀·塔倫蒂諾的電影《無恥的混蛋》中，他們都殺了人。正義者殺了納粹。有很好的理由。
It's ironic don't you think? He had the equal rights of everyone else before he commited a crime. Of course if it was some sort of self defense case it's different but they don't mention that. I don't know why he would get life for something like that.
你不覺得這很諷刺嗎？他在犯罪前就擁有與其他人平等的權(quán)利。當然，如果這是某種自衛(wèi)的情況下，它是不同的，但他們沒有提到這一點。我也不知道他為什么會因為這樣（正當防衛(wèi)）的事情而被判無期徒刑。
@Derek R not all advancements are good ones from what the video shows he could take off from the jail never to be seen again before his sentence is even done
@Derek R 并非所有的進步都是好的。從視頻中可以看出，他甚至可能在刑期未滿之前就從監(jiān)獄中離開了。
@Sunday Missal he’s being reformed , to be rewarded , he’d have to get more than the standard Finn
@Sunday Missal 他正在改過自新，所以理應(yīng)得到獎勵，他必須得到比普通芬蘭人更多的東西
@Derek R I feel like rewarding and letting people get away with murder is the definition of a primal society but okay.
@Derek R 我覺得獎勵犯人讓人們遠離謀殺是原始社會的定義，但（你可以這么想）沒關(guān)系。
@Aldous Huxley and why should it be that important what he does and doesn't regret. The principal reason for the existence of the criminal justice system is that less crimes are committed and society is safer as a whole. There are two methods to do it, one involves a carrot and one involves a stick. I don't see how any one is better than the other. We can only judge the results they bring.
Edit: And well, to be fair, the name criminal justice is a bit misleading. It's not about justice in the sense of making bad people feel bad. It's a public institution and it is there to serve a function for the benefit of the society. That's all.
@Aldous Huxley 其實他做了什么和有沒有后悔很重要嗎。刑事司法系統(tǒng)存在的主要原因是讓犯罪減少，整個社會更安全。達成這個目的有兩種方法，一種是胡蘿卜，一種是大棒。我看不出任何一種方法比另一種更好的地方。我們只能評價它們帶來的結(jié)果。
編輯：好吧，說句公道話，刑事司法這個名字有點誤導人。它的作用并不是用正義讓壞人感覺內(nèi)疚。它就是一個公共機構(gòu)，它的作用是為了社會的利益。僅此而已。