美國(guó)為什么這么富有??？
Why Is America So Rich?
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Why Is America So Rich?
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Rich ? U.S.A debt is huge
美國(guó)富？ 一屁股債。
Elvir GDP. Debt is not wealth. GDP determines a nations wealth. Our GDP Is largest and most influential GDP in on the planet. But it would only be such a way because of the capitalism established all those years ago
GDP，兄，富不富裕，不看債務(wù)，而是，GDP才是一個(gè)國(guó)家的決定性財(cái)富。我們的GDP全球第一，GDP影響力全球第一。這是因?yàn)橘Y本主義制度早早就確立了.
We make 3 or so trillion a year and we have maybe 30 trillion in debt we aren't that deep in debt, we just need to stop lobbying and useless social programs and it'll be paid off within 30 years yet we keep expanding them
我們的債務(wù)可能是30萬(wàn)億美元，然而我們每年只能創(chuàng)造3萬(wàn)億GDP. 我們不要陷入債務(wù)陷阱中，我們應(yīng)該取締各種游說(shuō)，消減那些無(wú)用的社會(huì)項(xiàng)目，這樣的話，在30年內(nèi)我們就能還清債務(wù)。然而我們現(xiàn)在的債務(wù)正在增加.
USA military strength will relinquish all debts
放心，美軍會(huì)銷賬所有債。
What nonsense. That's like saying Saudia Arabia is wealthy because they have a king. It's all about resources
胡說(shuō)八道。 就像我們說(shuō)沙特富裕是因?yàn)樗麄冇袊?guó)王一樣。 那是因?yàn)橘Y源！?。。。?！
Africa has huge resources, yet is the poorest continent. It takes the right mindset to become wealthy
非洲也有大量資源，最窮的還不是他？ 思想不正確，怎么可能富裕。
They also have very bad geography and desserts and also isolated for some countries, Europe have navigation canals
非洲的地理位置非常不好，跟其他一些國(guó)家也隔絕，還有沙漠。歐洲有航運(yùn)運(yùn)河。
I disagree. Japan has very limited resources and land mass, was bombed to rubble during the second world war and yet today is an economic powerhouse. Why? Free Enterprise, a functioning democracy and an educated populous.
我不同意。日本資源貧乏，國(guó)土狹小，二戰(zhàn)后被炸成廢墟，但是，現(xiàn)在它是個(gè)經(jīng)濟(jì)發(fā)動(dòng)源。為什么？ 自由企業(yè)制度，民主運(yùn)行良好，人民受教育程度高。
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Well actually Japan only kick started out of the rubbles of WW2 because USA was fighting a war in Korea and needed lots of products, thus Japan was revived by selling America large quantity of war stuff. This can be achieved without Free Enterprising, Functioning democracy, it still need an educated populous but countries don't need Free enterprise and Functional democracy to be rich.
實(shí)際上，日本只是在二戰(zhàn)時(shí)被炸成廢墟，過(guò)后，因?yàn)槌r戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)爆發(fā)，美國(guó)需要大量的戰(zhàn)略物資，日本靠提供大量的后勤物資而恢復(fù)活力。
這種成就，并不要求自由企業(yè)制度和民主運(yùn)行良好。因此一個(gè)國(guó)家要富裕，是需要有受教育的人民，但那兩項(xiàng)不是必需。
Alex W S Chan- You honestly believe that state owned and operated factories could have seen the opportunity, then pumped out the products in sufficient quantity and quality to raise Japan out of the ashes? I'm extremely dubious!
你真的相信國(guó)有企業(yè)和國(guó)管工廠能瞅準(zhǔn)機(jī)會(huì)？ 然后大量制造出足量?jī)?yōu)質(zhì)的產(chǎn)品，把整個(gè)日本從廢墟中拉起來(lái)？ 我非常懷疑！
Well the only difference between State owned factories and Private factories is just that one is controlled by the state and the other is not, other than that they don't really have much of a difference
國(guó)企和民企之間唯一的區(qū)別是所有者不同。除此之外，沒(méi)什么本質(zhì)區(qū)別。
Alex W S Chan - I certainly will not pretend to be an expert in economics but didn't com...st China only become a major economic player after they gave their Industry a great deal of autonomy?
我不會(huì)假裝自己是個(gè)經(jīng)濟(jì)學(xué)家，但是，中國(guó)變成一個(gè)經(jīng)濟(jì)大玩家，難道不是在對(duì)民企放權(quán)之后嗎？
> It's all about resources.Its more than that, the US had the right to trade with anyone, this goes back to the Revolutionary War. Before that, the British would only trade with their own colonies, and same with the French, the Spanish and the Dutch. It was called Mercantilism, and it prevented them from trading with other nations... all in the delusion that they didn't want to allow their gold to leave the country.After 1776, the US would trade with anyone and everyone. This allowed the US to prosper and trade with the best prices from whomever would offer it.
那是因?yàn)橘Y源？不止是這樣。美國(guó)是有權(quán)利跟任何人做生意的，這可以往后追溯美國(guó)獨(dú)立戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)時(shí)代。 在那之前，英國(guó)只能跟自己的殖民地做貿(mào)易，法國(guó)，西班牙，荷蘭，都是這樣。這就是所謂的商業(yè)主義，它不允許越界貿(mào)易，當(dāng)時(shí)，所有人都不愿讓自己國(guó)家的黃金白銀流出本國(guó)。
1776年后，美國(guó)愿意跟所有人進(jìn)行貿(mào)易。這使得美國(guó)的貿(mào)易能對(duì)比價(jià)格，誰(shuí)出價(jià)高，就跟誰(shuí)交易。美國(guó)就此繁榮。
Here's an example, but beforehand: WARNING: The following message contains content that people without a sense for satire may find disturbing.Libya is being ruled by Gaddafi and is also ripe with oil...So America sees this and is all like: "Looks like Libya needs a few dozen packages of "Freedom" oh and while we're at it, let us liberate you of this foul blackened water..."
這里有個(gè)例子，但是，預(yù)先警告：下面的信息包含的內(nèi)容可能干擾到還沒(méi)能力欣賞諷刺的人?？ㄔ平y(tǒng)治下的利比亞也有優(yōu)質(zhì)油，美國(guó)看見(jiàn)了，然后，就“利比亞看起來(lái)需要幾十包<普世>，哦，在這點(diǎn)上，讓我們解放你于黑污潭水中...”
america has a lot of money because it has a lot of people. when you compare gdp per capita, many "socialist" countries are almost as rich or even richer.
美國(guó)有很多錢(qián)，是因?yàn)槊绹?guó)的人口多。當(dāng)你比較人均GDP的時(shí)候，很多共產(chǎn)主義國(guó)家?guī)缀醺绹?guó)一樣富裕甚至更富裕。
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So that makes China the wealthiest country in the world. Besides the fact that they all work in factories making 2 cents per hour
這么說(shuō)，中國(guó)就是世界上最富裕的了。爽癮過(guò)后，他們就得全部到廠里去，每小時(shí)掙2分錢(qián)。
Beautiful free market capitalism
美國(guó)富裕的原因是健全的資本主義自由市場(chǎng)
Its a socialist economy. Socialism for the rich
美國(guó)是shzy經(jīng)濟(jì)，shzy致富。
nattygsbord then it isn't socialism?
他不是共產(chǎn)主義國(guó)家。
It is socialism. Every economy in history has to some degree been a planned economy, and in America its the rich and the bankers who makes the planning, and not the government
他是共產(chǎn)主義。歷史上任何一種經(jīng)濟(jì)都必須有一定程度的計(jì)劃經(jīng)濟(jì)，在美國(guó)，政府沒(méi)有制定計(jì)劃，計(jì)劃是由富人和銀行家制定的。
nattygsbord Do you have any evidence or even an anecdote? Or do you just expect people to agree because rich bankers are an easy target?
哪里來(lái)的說(shuō)法？你有證據(jù)嗎？ 還是僅因富人和銀行家易成仇富之的，你就指望別人贊同你？
1. 美國(guó)的富人階層并不是固定不變,你可以看前十名最富的人，大部分都不是生來(lái)就在那位置。 美國(guó)可是有很多人因?yàn)橥顿Y失敗或揮霍過(guò)度而跌出富人行列的。 那么可以問(wèn)問(wèn)，為什么那些富人要制定一個(gè)讓別人取代自己的計(jì)劃？
2. 你說(shuō)說(shuō)富人用什么工具“計(jì)劃”經(jīng)濟(jì)可以保證自己立于不敗之地？銀行家很多時(shí)候確實(shí)會(huì)拒絕發(fā)放貸款， 那是因?yàn)樗麄兪窍Ｍ刨J給那些有成功希望的人。富人和銀行家最大的工具就是“政府”了， 他們經(jīng)常為獲取補(bǔ)助而游說(shuō)政府，或游說(shuō)政府制定有利于自己的法律，從而打擊對(duì)手。
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3. 經(jīng)濟(jì)活動(dòng)是由普通人每天自動(dòng)進(jìn)行的大量交易構(gòu)成的。除非你能運(yùn)用某種力量（比如政府），否則你根本就無(wú)法控制那些經(jīng)濟(jì)活動(dòng)。
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你要致富而又沒(méi)有權(quán)力背景，那你最好就老老實(shí)實(shí)地想辦法提升自己的服務(wù)，降低自己的售價(jià)，這樣子，愿意跟你購(gòu)買(mǎi)產(chǎn)品/服務(wù)的人才變多，你才能競(jìng)贏對(duì)手。
蘋(píng)果公司的錢(qián)，那可不是靠偷竊來(lái)的，他的每個(gè)經(jīng)濟(jì)交易活動(dòng)，都是自由自愿，沒(méi)有半分強(qiáng)迫你去買(mǎi)他的iPod/iPhone?，F(xiàn)在蘋(píng)果公司錢(qián)多了，他們還是無(wú)法不讓別人買(mǎi)三星、HTC或老古董翻蓋機(jī)而要買(mǎi)自己公司的iPhone。他們還得不斷創(chuàng)新，不然也會(huì)被踢出市場(chǎng)。 如果他們無(wú)法提供我們需要的產(chǎn)品，難道他們還能指望政府來(lái)幫他強(qiáng)買(mǎi)強(qiáng)賣(mài)？
The rich can buy up politicians and corrupth the government and rig the system in their own favour. Their group of people owns the commanding hights of the economy, and often they have contrary interests to the low/middle classes, and also the country as a whole. So the private sector intrude upon the governmental and democratical sphere in order to bend rules in their own favour.
富人可以收買(mǎi)政客，腐蝕政府，按自己利益操控政治體系。他們是經(jīng)濟(jì)上層的操控者。然而他們的利益又經(jīng)常跟底層/中產(chǎn)階級(jí)有沖突的。
國(guó)家作為一個(gè)整體來(lái)運(yùn)行，私人部門(mén)侵入政治層面，操控民主領(lǐng)域，就能使社會(huì)規(guī)則偏向自己的利益。
而且，大型公司比如沃爾瑪，在公司內(nèi)部都需要成立的高程度的控制中心。所以，公平地說(shuō)，這就是一種“計(jì)劃”經(jīng)濟(jì)。富人“計(jì)劃”一切，而且是為私利。
蘋(píng)果公司是個(gè)非常好的例子。他騙取政府補(bǔ)助，攫取科學(xué)成果比如互聯(lián)網(wǎng)，GPD,SIRI，用于自己的產(chǎn)品上面，然后又沒(méi)有向美國(guó)納稅?；旧纤麄兙褪谴畋丬嚥毁I(mǎi)票，沒(méi)有上交自己應(yīng)付的那部分。蘋(píng)果公司面不改色地把他人的納稅錢(qián)用于自己的產(chǎn)品研發(fā)，但是，這個(gè)社會(huì)供給了科技成果，他們只攫取而無(wú)回饋。
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所以，公平地說(shuō)，這就是另一種“共產(chǎn)主義致富”。
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