曾向公眾警告世界人口過多的威廉王子正在嘗試生四胎

When the 1% talk about overpopulation they really mean there are too many of the ''wrong type'' of people

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王室成員的生四胎，能叫超生么？

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Cunny1989
Classism is a hell of a drug

階級對立的社會就是毒藥

happygloaming
I am reminded of the saying culture is for people what water is to fish. They don't know they're in it. These people are so indoctrinated into their class that they have completely normalised their abhorrent behaviour and attitudes.

有人跟我說過，文化與人之間的關系和水與魚之間是一樣的。他們意識不到自己正置身其中。這些人對于自己所在的階級已經(jīng)太適應了，以至于他們覺得自己令人生惡的行為和態(tài)度是完全正常的。

yeeto_deleto_tostito
Yeah but fish can die from being out of water

沒錯，但假如沒有水的話，魚也會死。
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Cyanoblamin
The state of anomie can easily lead to suicide, so in a sense the analogy still holds up. Humans may literally kill themselves when totally removed from all culture and norms.

這種失去道德信仰的狀態(tài)很容易導致自殺，所以這種比喻仍然成立。當社會中沒有任何文化和道德規(guī)范的時候，人類真的會互相殺害。

Sophilosophical
True. Culture is not a monolith, and despite some cultures (including the most dominant) having fatally toxic aspects, culture is also what makes life worth living. It is the carvings found on ancient bones. It is the paintings found deep within long forgotten caverns. It is the beads carved from seashells that adorned young and old. And the songs which became stories which became history.

真的。文化并不是一塊堅不可摧的石碑。并且盡管某些文化（包括現(xiàn)在最主流的）包括極為有害的要素，但文化也是讓人生值得活下去的東西。文化是古老獸骨上雕刻的花紋。文化是久被遺忘的山洞中留下的比劃。文化是用海螺穿起的項鏈，讓老人和年輕人同樣為之著迷。文化是變成了故事的歌謠，和變成了歷史的故事。

It is only in recognition and celebration of healthy and cooperative culture that we will ever manifest our highest aspirations for a redeemed society.

只有我們認識到并慶祝自己擁有一個健康的、團結(jié)的文化，我們才能最終成為一個值得救贖的社會，在其中達到我們最高的追求。

happygloaming
LOL very true.

哈哈哈十分真實。

valek005
You ever seen trust fund kids out of money?

你見過拿信托基金的富人家孩子沒錢花嗎？

happygloaming
Actually one yes. It wasn't pretty.

事實上真的見過。下場并不好看。

neverwantit
I'm not saying I need more info, I'm just saying it may greatly benefit my day to day life.

我有個朋友說他想聽聽。
（原意：不是說我真的想聽更多的細節(jié)，只是說不定真的對我的日常生活有好處呢。）

happygloaming
I'm not saying I need more info, I'm just saying it may greatly benefit my day to day life.

引用：我有個朋友說他想聽聽。
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Ok so Dad was an Asian Businessman who died, Mum inherited the fortune and kids were on trust funds. They didn't have to work or pay for study but my mate had a part time job that was in line with his hobby.... just for shiggles. He got engaged to a cleaner and Mum was not amused and threatened him with being cut off. He then married the cleaner and was temporarily cut off with the expectation that he'd come to his senses. Marriage failed and he was alone floundering with nobody to look after him. He was not really ever independent. He didn't really understand what was required to look after himself and didn't go crawling back to mum because he was offended, which was fair enough. He made some poor decisions and ended up floundering and not understanding why nothing was working out and it was clear he was expecting others to help him. Wasted money and had no idea what he was doing.

好吧，他爸爸是個亞洲的商人，死了；媽媽繼承了家產(chǎn)，孩子們用信托基金養(yǎng)著。他們不需要工作，也不需要為學業(yè)花錢，但我那個朋友找了個符合他的興趣的臨時工……就是干著玩兒。他和一個清潔工訂婚了。他媽媽對此很不滿意，威脅他要是真的結(jié)婚就和他斷絕關系。然后他就真的和清潔工結(jié)婚了，也真的如預料之中失去了自己的那份基金。最后婚姻失敗了，他一個人過得很慘，也沒人照顧他。他甚至連經(jīng)濟獨立都算不上。他不知道照顧好自己需要做什么事情，但他也沒有回去找媽媽，因為他生氣了，這倒還算有點骨氣。他做了一些很差勁的決定，最終只能一個人困難地度日，甚至不明白自己為什么過著這么爛的人生，并且還盼著別人能幫他一把。每天都在浪費錢，并且不知道自己在干什么。

Honestly, I don't even know what the end result was, I'm sure he's back in the fold now but you're free to imagine a different outcome. It was just cringy watching him try to think his way through life without being looked after. Very cringy.

說真的，我都不知道他最后混成什么樣了。我確定他現(xiàn)在肯定過得還行，但你想象一個完全不同的結(jié)局也沒有問題?？粗麤]有別人照顧，自己一個人想接下來的日子該怎么過，真的很嚇人。真的很嚇人。

lostmau5
There needs to be a subreddit for it, I would subscribe.

你應該專門開個版塊寫這個人的，我會訂閱的。
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MisterRobotoe
Inform her Highness I had sex.

通知女王陛下，我和她上床了。

WickedRaccoon
"We're trying for a baby!"

“陛下！我們在要孩子！”

"My husband is cumming in me every night!"

“我丈夫天天弄得我滿肚子都是！”

Headcap
Here's a fun quiz:

來個有趣的小測驗吧：

You have 10 brownies and 10 people

現(xiàn)在有10塊蛋糕和10個人

One person eats 6 brownies meaning 5 people go without brownies.

一個人吃了6塊蛋糕，這意味著有5個人會沒有蛋糕可以吃。

What is the problem in this scenario?

問題出在哪里？

A: Not enough brownies

A：蛋糕不夠多

B: Too many people

B：人太多

C: That one bougie fuck who ate 6 brownies

C：有個中產(chǎn)階級傻逼吃了6塊蛋糕

Wammakko
D: We could only afford 2 brownies and had to spend non-renewable resources to come up with the other 8 and must repeat the entire process tomorrow?

D:我們所有人只能吃兩塊蛋糕，剩下的八塊必須用不可再生能源才能制作，明天把這個流程再重復一遍？

It would be nice if we could divvy up the brownies evenly, but we still need 10 of them every day for 8 billion apex predators with 80-year lifespans.

就算我們能平均地把這些蛋糕分給每個人，好，但我們?nèi)匀幻刻於家o80億個平均年齡80歲的頂級掠食者分蛋糕。

I used to think science can solve all our problems, but that was a long time ago.

我曾經(jīng)以為科學能解決我們的所有問題，但那是很久很久以前的事了。

danielito19
Science can solve our problems as soon as it's not strangled by our economic system.

只要有朝一日科學不再被我們的經(jīng)濟體制所束縛，它就一定能解決我們的所有問題。

Serious_Feedback
Science already solved our problems, just not with our current priorities - solar and batteries are now cheaper than what the cost of coal and gas was in the 1970s.

科學已經(jīng)解決我們的問題了，只不過沒有趕上我們現(xiàn)在的主要問題——太陽能電力和電池現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)比上世紀70年代的煤礦和油氣能源便宜了。

The goal post has moved since then, but there's nothing fundamentally stopping us from ditching fossil fuels in our electrical grid - we just don't want to.

盡管我們很久之前就達成了目標，但沒有什么東西能從根本上阻止我們往電網(wǎng)中倒化石燃料——我們只是不想。

The demand for a "technological solution" is truly absurd - not only do people want a solution that's cheaper than what fossil fuels were, but they want a solution that just happens to also decrease in price faster than fossil fuels are decreasing but with a far smaller R&D budget than fossil fuels, and they also want it to happen to be cleaner and that happens to easily integrate into a grid designed around fossil fuels, and that happens to be widely portable and not geography-specific.

對“高科技解決方案”的需求本身就很蠢——人們需要的不只是一種比化石燃料便宜的能源，而是一種價格降低得比化石燃料還快，研發(fā)成本比化石燃料小，污染還少，還能輕松地融入現(xiàn)有的化石燃料電網(wǎng)架構(gòu)，還能各處都有。

Like, really? I'm sure that will happen any day now. People used this excuse for decades instead of even partially fixing the problem.

就，認真的嗎？我倒是不覺得真的能找到。人們寧可用這種理由忽悠自己幾十年，也不愿意真正動動腦子解決問題。

Mrhorrendous
This is ridiculous. We absolutely could farm enough food to sustain everyone. Not with American style diets, but plant based diets. Science absolutely has the answers here, we just choose not to implement them.

簡直可笑。我們早就有能力生產(chǎn)能喂飽所有人的食物了。只要不是美國人的飲食習慣，而是以農(nóng)作物為基礎的飲食習慣。科學在這方面絕對有它的答案，只不過我們不愿意照著做。

dont_even_bother_
Correction, we DO farm enough food to sustain everyone. USDA says that we waste 30-40% of the food grown in America, not to mention a huge amount of food grown is fed to animals, not to people. I am not a vegitarian or anything but it is just a fact that the carrying capacity of our existing farms would be substantially higher if we all ate less meat.

修改，我們事實上真的有足夠的食物喂飽每個人。美國農(nóng)業(yè)部說我們每年浪費掉本土種植的糧食的30-40%，更不用提其中的一大部分食物是喂給了動物，而不是人。我不是素食主義者，但我確實承認假如每個人都少吃一點肉，那么我們現(xiàn)在農(nóng)場能喂飽的人數(shù)會多很多。

NeverQuiteEnough
Hey we could solve climate change overnight if the top 10% of consumers just started living like fucking normal people. Murdering the bottom 50% of consumers would have essentially no impact!

知道嗎，只要社會上前10%的消費者能他媽過上和正常人一樣的生活，我們一天就能解決氣候變化問題。就算殺了最底層50%的消費者，對氣候問題也不會有任何影響！

The largest irrigated crop in the US is fucking grass lawns.

占美國最大面積的灌溉農(nóng)作物是他媽的草坪。

Overpopulation is a theoretical problem which we might someday encounter.

人口過多是我們?nèi)蘸竽骋惶炜赡軙庥龅睦碚撋系膯栴}。

Overconsumption is a real problem happening in the real world right now.

過度消費是在現(xiàn)實實際正在發(fā)生的無比真實的問題。

Science can never solve the problem of overconsumption, because consumption is unbounded. There’s no physical limit to how many mega-yachts requiring full time staff one person can own.

科學永遠解決不了過度消費的問題，因為消費是沒有邊界的。一個人可以擁有的需要工作人員全天候值班的超豪華游艇的數(shù)量是沒有物理上限的。

Science has already solved the problem of sustainably meeting the needs of every human currently alive on planet earth.

科學已經(jīng)解決了讓地球上的每一名人類都吃飽穿暖的問題。

The ideology you are repeating here is Malthusian eco-fascism. Do not fall for the propaganda.

你現(xiàn)在在這里說的是馬爾薩斯的經(jīng)濟法西斯主義。別陷入他們的宣傳陷阱。

Greevar
It's easy to say there are too many people when you look at anyone who isn't you as expendable.

只要你覺得除了你之外的人都可有可無，你就可以說世界上的人太多了。

If we're ever going to make things better, we Americans (yes, specifically Americans) have to wake up and refuse to participate in this system of exploitation and form a new economy that displaces profit in favor of human lives as its primary motivator. We absolutely must collectively walk away from our jobs and our landlords to create a new world for ourselves that provides every single human being a dignified living unconditionally. Nobody should have to justify their right to live by providing an undeserving minority a luxurious lifestyle.

假如我們想改善現(xiàn)狀，我們美國人（沒錯，尤其是美國人）就必須覺醒，拒絕繼續(xù)參與這個壓迫剝削的體制，形成一個新的經(jīng)濟體，將人類的生命，而不是利益，作為其主要的驅(qū)動力。我們絕對需要一起罷工，一起離開地主和房東，為我們創(chuàng)造一個新的世界，一個讓每一名人類都變得高尚的世界，一個活在世上不需要條件的世界。沒有人應當為了生存的權(quán)利，而去為一群德不配位的少數(shù)人提供奢侈的生活方式。

AggresivePickle
I wish we had the organization for a general strike

我真希望我們能組織起一場總罷工。

Jaytalvapes
The problem is we're too big, and too many people are just barely comfortable.

問題在于我們的體量太大了，并且太多人過著【剛好】舒適的生活。

As fucked as this country is, we are nowhere near the point that it would take for a significant percentage of the population to be willing to sacrifice the relative comfort they enjoy to go on a general strike.

不管這個國家有多爛，我們距離能讓這個國家相當大一部分的人都愿意放棄他們相對舒適的環(huán)境，走上街頭進行罷工游行，還遠得很。

Gainwhore
This! And the 1% knows it. They give us the bare minimum to keep us from not going completely mad

太對了！并且那1%同樣知道這件事。他們給我們最低限度的資源，好讓我們不至于完全失去理智。

Jaytalvapes
Yep.

沒錯。

Partner that with decades of low spending on education and a largely willfully apathetic population, and a heaping spoonful of propaganda and misinformation and you've got the recipe for a country full of fat idiots who are too busy being mad at the wrong people to ever collectively stick it to the man.

再考慮到數(shù)十年如一日的低教育支出，和一群無動于衷的冷漠民眾，和滿滿當當一湯匙的政治宣傳與虛假信息，你就能做出一整國的傻逼肥仔，每天只顧著跟毫不相關的人互相生氣，甚至做不到聯(lián)合起來共同渡過難關。
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Gainwhore
I live in the eu and it aint much better. We have a stupid work mentality, where as long as you work for someone (business, corporation etc) then ur useful. If you put in the same amount of work to build a skatepark in an old abandoned factory and give it back to the comunity for free, well then your a good for nothing lazy drug addicted shit and its right for the owner to evict you and build high priced office spaces ( just google tovarna rog)

我住在歐盟，這里也沒好到哪里去，我們這里的工作道德非常愚蠢，只要你給別人打工（企業(yè)，公司之類），那你就對社會有用。假如你把同樣的工作量奉獻給在一個廢舊工廠里造個滑板公園然后無償捐獻給社區(qū)，那你就是個百無一用的懶蛋癮君子，工廠擁有者有權(quán)起訴你，然后把你建成的公園改成高價辦公樓（谷歌一下tovarna rog你就知道了）。

NotElizaHenry
I’m super curious what circumstances create a tipping point where enough people to make a difference actually revolt. Like how much can you take away from people before they feel like they have nothing to lose? Widespread hunger has historically been a great way to make the masses revolt—is that where we have to be for a critical mass of Americans to rise up? It seems like a long as the government is keeping people fed it doesn’t have much to worry about.

我非常好奇，社會要惡化到什么程度才能讓足夠多的人真正揭竿造反。比如說，你究竟要從人們手中奪走多少東西，才能讓他們覺得自己沒有退路？就歷史上來說，廣泛的饑荒一直都是讓人民起義的好辦法，但想要讓足夠多的美國人站起來，真的需要這樣嗎？那看起來只要政府能一直讓人們吃飽飯，就不需要擔心這種事。

throwawaywahwahwah
People usually start rioting after everyone is collectively hungry for 3 days. Once everyone who isn’t in the 1% is so fucked they have no viable options to continue to feed themselves, that’s when the guillotines come out.

通常情況下，在每個人都餓到連著三天沒有飯吃的時候，人們就會開始暴動。只有那些不是1%的可憐人淪落到實在沒有任何辦法喂飽自己，他們才會把斷頭臺推出來。

There’s a reason why, just prior to the kick off of the French Revolution, the media popularized the “l(fā)et them eat cake” quip falsely attributed to Marie Antoinette.

這就是法國大革命開始的前夜，媒體把“讓他們吃蛋糕啊”這句話移花接木到了瑪麗·安托瓦內(nèi)特頭上的原因。

Thefrayedends
It's easy to say there are too many people when you look at anyone who isn't you as expendable.

引用：“只要你覺得除了你之外的人都可有可無，你就可以說世界上的人太多了?！?/b>

Wow, you really nailed it here.

哇，你真的一針見血。

Just based on my life experience I imagine anyone who thinks "too many people" hasn't even attempted a thought exercise such as "Can we live with 10 billion people sustainably." This isn't some conclusion they arrived at through careful pragmatism. It's an opinion they're sharing about how they'd be ok if some millions or billions of people poofed out of existence.

根據(jù)我自己的人生經(jīng)驗，任何一個認為“世界上的人太多了”的人，都沒有嚴肅地進行過“人類能否在100億人口的水平可持續(xù)生存”這樣的思想練習。他們可不是通過嚴肅謹慎實事求是的思考得出的這種結(jié)論。他們只是在和他人分享自己的意見，她們覺得就算有幾百萬人，幾億人突然消失，他們也照樣能活著。

Salsaboy100
On that note, uhhhh it's supposed to be 'survival of the fittest', not 'survival of the richest'. Unbridled and unregulated greed and capitalism gets us to this point.

補充一點，本來應該是“適者生存”，而不是“富者生存”。是沒有限制的資本主義和貪婪把我們帶到今天的地步的。

Willy says there're too many people in the world. When really there're too many inflated, overvalued, ignorant, arrogant, avaricious, but most importantly destructive rich people in the world.

威廉王子說世界上有太多的人。事實上是有太多盆缽體滿，德不配位，無動于衷，盲目自大，貪得無厭，并且大肆破壞的富人。

Luckily there're some smart politicians and 1%ers out there that get this too, and are at least taking some action to help this planet. They're few and far between.

幸運的是還有一些聰明的政治家和1%仍然理解，并且至少在做出行動來幫助這個星球?？上麄?nèi)藬?shù)太少，并且間隔太遠。

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