網(wǎng)友討論：東南亞最強(qiáng)大的國(guó)家是哪個(gè)？

Jarrod Brown
I think this largely depends on your definition of “powerful.”
Indonesia has the largest population as well as the largest economy, making it an extremely influential player.
Singapore, with the highest per capita income and strong international financial, shipping, manufacturing, and technology, and therefore exerts influence beyond it size and population. It is also an exporter of defense technology.
Indonesia and Singapore also spend the most on defense.
Thailand is the second largest economy, has an entrenched middle class with strong military ties, and in part because of that, a fairly large defense budget and a very strategic position, sharing borders with the rest of mainland Southeast Asia except Vietnam and Singapore.

我想這主要取決于你對(duì)強(qiáng)大的定義
印度尼西亞人口最多，經(jīng)濟(jì)規(guī)模最大，是東南亞極具影響力的玩家
新加坡?lián)碛凶罡叩娜司杖?，在?guó)際金融，航運(yùn)，制造業(yè)和技術(shù)領(lǐng)域擁有強(qiáng)大的實(shí)力，因此新加坡可以發(fā)揮超出自己體量和人口的影響力。同時(shí)新加坡還是國(guó)防技術(shù)的出口國(guó)。
在國(guó)防領(lǐng)域投入最多的國(guó)家是印度尼西亞和新加坡
泰國(guó)是東南亞第二大經(jīng)濟(jì)體，擁有與軍方有很多聯(lián)系的穩(wěn)固的中產(chǎn)階級(jí)，在一定程度上也正因?yàn)槿绱?，泰?guó)擁有相當(dāng)龐大的國(guó)防預(yù)算和非常具有戰(zhàn)略意義的地位，與除越南和新加坡以外的東南亞其他國(guó)家接壤。

Vietnam has been steadily increasing its defense spending since it came into conflict regarding the South China Sea with China, and is very influential in both Laos and Cambodia, its next door neighbors, overshadowing Thailand despite the close cultural ties. I would not say it is the most powerful, but its star is rising.

自從越南與中國(guó)在南海問(wèn)題上發(fā)生沖突以來(lái)，越南的國(guó)防開(kāi)支一直在穩(wěn)步增加。越南在鄰國(guó)老撾和柬埔寨都有很大影響力，盡管泰國(guó)與這兩國(guó)在文化上關(guān)系密切，但越南對(duì)兩國(guó)的影響力還是超過(guò)了泰國(guó)。我不是說(shuō)越南是東南亞最強(qiáng)的，但它正在冉冉升起

So, that means that Malaysia, Brunei, East Timor, the Philippines, and Burma (Myanmar) probably are not the most powerful. Malaysia could have been a contender, but mismanagement under Najib has seriously undermined its position in Southeast Asia and globally. The Philippines has a strong economy and military, but have been unable to deal with domestic issues, let alone project power into the South China Sea unlike both Indonesia and Vietnam.

因此，或許這意味著馬來(lái)西亞，文萊，東帝汶，菲律賓和緬甸不是最強(qiáng)大的。馬來(lái)西亞本可以成為有力的競(jìng)爭(zhēng)者，但在納吉布的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)下，對(duì)國(guó)家的管理不善嚴(yán)重削弱了它在東南亞和全球的地位。菲律賓擁有強(qiáng)大的經(jīng)濟(jì)和軍隊(duì)，但菲律賓連自己的國(guó)內(nèi)事務(wù)都處理不好，更不用說(shuō)像印尼和越南那樣將力量投送到南海。

David Nivala
Southeast Asia, includes the sovereign countries of Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, East Timor, Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar (Burma), Thailand, and Vietnam. Approx. 10% of the world’s population is in this region.
Of these, Indonesia is the largest in land mass (1.9, million square km) and population (250 million) and Singapore is the smallest land mass (724 square km) with a population of 5.5 million.
Indonesia has the highest GDP ($1.2 Trillion), Thailand has the second highest GDP ($0.4 Trillion), while East Timor has the lowest GDP ($0.004 Trillion)
Singapore is the wealthiest ($52,000 per capita GDP), Brunei is the second wealthiest ($37,000 per capita GDP) and Myanmar the poorest ($964 per capita GDP).
As far as military strength, Indonesia is ranked highest followed by Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, then Malaysia.
Hence, overall Indonesia is possibly the strongest, based on economic and military strength.

東南亞主權(quán)國(guó)家包括馬來(lái)西亞，新加坡，菲律賓，東帝汶，文萊，柬埔寨，老撾，緬甸，泰國(guó)和越南。這個(gè)地區(qū)大約擁有全球10%的人口。
這些國(guó)家中，印度尼西亞體量最大，領(lǐng)土面積190萬(wàn)平方公里，人口2.5億，新加坡體量最小，領(lǐng)土面積724平方公里，人口550萬(wàn)。
印度尼西亞是東南亞最大的經(jīng)濟(jì)體（1.2萬(wàn)億美元），泰國(guó)緊隨其后（4000億美元），東帝汶經(jīng)濟(jì)規(guī)模最?。?0億美元）。
新加坡最為富裕（人均GDP52000美元），文萊排第二（人均GDP37000美元），緬甸最窮（人均GDP964美元）。
至于軍事實(shí)力，印度尼西亞排名第一，緊隨其后的分別是泰國(guó)，越南，新加坡和馬來(lái)西亞
因此，根據(jù)經(jīng)濟(jì)和軍事實(shí)力來(lái)看，整體上印尼是最強(qiáng)的。
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Yu Cheng,
Vietnam, period. 3 of the P5 have tried their luck in Vietnam. Name another country in SEA that can do this.
US: They won the Vietnam War against the US.
China: They also fought with the Chinese. China made a quick invasion and kept the conflict at the border without launching any further full-scale invasions, because Vietnam is not a weak enemy. Vietnam actually occupies a lot of islands in the South China Sea, in the face of China.
France: If we count the First Indochina War - Wikipedia, France also tried its luck in Vietnam.
Singapore has purchased fancy US weapons. But, Vietnam actually won a war against the US, a real war. Respect cannot be purchased, you know.

越南，與五常中的三個(gè)交過(guò)手。東盟中還有哪個(gè)國(guó)家可以做到
美國(guó)：他們?cè)谠侥蠎?zhàn)爭(zhēng)中打敗了美國(guó)
中國(guó)：越南也和中國(guó)發(fā)生過(guò)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)。...在邊境爆發(fā)沖突，但由于越南擁有強(qiáng)大的軍隊(duì)，中國(guó)并沒(méi)有進(jìn)一步發(fā)動(dòng)全面戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)。在面對(duì)中國(guó)時(shí)，越南還實(shí)際控制了南海的眾多島嶼。
法國(guó)：如果算上第一次印度支那戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)，那么法國(guó)也在越南碰過(guò)運(yùn)氣。
新加坡購(gòu)買(mǎi)先進(jìn)的美國(guó)武器，但越南在一場(chǎng)真正的戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)的打敗了美國(guó)。你要知道，尊重是買(mǎi)不來(lái)的。

Sogesu Tran
In terms of military, Vietnam is the strongest.
Strength made by military tradition, war experiences, spirit of people and culture in the country not by wealth, or essentially number of weapon. You can buy modern weapons and getting richer but you cant buy tradition and experience and long respect. You may be drop weapons and routed when hearing gun fires or explosion because of low fighting moral and bunch of populous cowards. Viet is not like that. They always resiliently fight back. Vietnam is some thing like Prussia in Europe date back in 13th-19th century. Small but tough.

在軍事方面，越南是最強(qiáng)的
軍事實(shí)力是依靠軍隊(duì)傳統(tǒng)，戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)經(jīng)驗(yàn)，人民精神和國(guó)家文化造就的，而不是靠財(cái)富和武器數(shù)量。你可以買(mǎi)到現(xiàn)代武器，可以讓國(guó)家變富，但你買(mǎi)不到傳統(tǒng)，經(jīng)驗(yàn)和長(zhǎng)久以來(lái)的尊重。當(dāng)你聽(tīng)到槍聲或爆炸聲時(shí)，你可能會(huì)因?yàn)榈拖碌氖勘赖潞鸵蝗号撤蚨鴣G掉武器而被擊潰。越南不是這樣的國(guó)家，他們總會(huì)頑強(qiáng)的反擊。
越南就像13到19世紀(jì)的歐洲普魯士，國(guó)家雖小但很頑強(qiáng)

Roy Yu
It depends on what you mean by being the most powerful.
Overall Indonesia is the most powerful and influential in the region due to its large population and area. Indonesia also has the largest economy and a member of G20.

這要取決于你對(duì)最強(qiáng)大國(guó)家的定義是什么
整體上來(lái)說(shuō)，由于龐大的人口規(guī)模和領(lǐng)土面積，印度尼西亞是東南亞最強(qiáng)大和最有影響力的。而且它還是東南亞嘴的經(jīng)濟(jì)體，還是G20成員國(guó)。

Indonesian military is ranked as the 14th strongest in the world. A war among ASEAN countries will be a very unlikely scenario. Should there be a war, I think Singapore and Malaysia will prevail. Both countries are members of The Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) which are a series of defence relationships established by a series of multi-lateral agreements between the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia and Singapore (all Commonwealth members) signed in 1971, whereby the five powers are to consult each other "immediately" in the event or threat of an armed attack on Malaysia or Singapore for the purpose of deciding what measures should be taken jointly or separately in response.
Rather than determining who is the most powerful, I would prefer ASEAN countries to prosper as a whole. We are all brothers and sisters with the same heart and soul.

印度尼西亞的軍事實(shí)力全球排名第14。東盟國(guó)家之間不太可能爆發(fā)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)，如果爆發(fā)戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)，我認(rèn)為新加坡和馬來(lái)西亞會(huì)獲勝。新馬是五國(guó)聯(lián)防組織成員國(guó)，該組織是1971年英國(guó)，澳大利亞，新西蘭，新加坡和馬來(lái)西亞通過(guò)簽署一系列多邊協(xié)議建立起來(lái)的防衛(wèi)關(guān)系。因此在新加坡和馬來(lái)西亞遭到武裝攻擊時(shí)，五國(guó)會(huì)立即磋商決定共同或單獨(dú)進(jìn)行應(yīng)對(duì)。
我更希望東盟國(guó)家作為一個(gè)整體繁榮起來(lái)，而不是判定誰(shuí)最強(qiáng)大。我們都是心心相印的兄弟姐妹。

M Fawwaz Mayda
Overall, which is the strongest country in Southeast Asia?
For simple i will say its Indonesia
Why???
First thing first, Indonesia wins in term of population that can be translated as available man power. This result in the combat superiority as well as others supporting factors.

總體而言，東南亞最強(qiáng)的是哪個(gè)國(guó)家？
簡(jiǎn)單點(diǎn)說(shuō)，我認(rèn)為是印度尼西亞
原因？
首先，印尼在人口方面勝出，人口可以轉(zhuǎn)化為可用的人力。這給印度尼西亞帶來(lái)了戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)優(yōu)勢(shì)和其他方面的有利因素。

Second, Indonesia has powerful troops to be deployed in the battlefield. Kopassus that ranked third best special forces in the world.
Third, The defence industry of Indonesia is quite capable of making such of tanks,gun,artilery weapons,missile,and even aircraft. In addition Indonesia is the only country that making its own fighter jet in South East Asia(collaboration with Korea).
Fourth, this point is a bit pointless. Indonesia by far has most advanced Nuclear program in South East Asia. This can be mean Indonesia can develop such a powerful Nuclear weapon in future.
Also rank form Global Firepower 2016 ranked Indonesia first in South East Asia region.

第二，印尼有強(qiáng)大的軍隊(duì)可以部署在戰(zhàn)場(chǎng)上。印尼國(guó)家精英特種部隊(duì)在世界特種部隊(duì)中排名第三。
第三，印尼的國(guó)防工業(yè)可以制造坦克，槍支，炮兵武器，導(dǎo)彈甚至是戰(zhàn)機(jī)。而且印尼是東南亞唯一一個(gè)自己制造戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)的國(guó)家（也韓國(guó)合作生產(chǎn)）。
第四，這一點(diǎn)或許沒(méi)有什么意義。印尼擁有目前為止東南亞最先進(jìn)的核開(kāi)發(fā)計(jì)劃。這意味著未來(lái)印尼可以研發(fā)出強(qiáng)大的核武器。
而且根據(jù)2016全球火力排行，印尼在東南亞排名第一。