Alexei Yahontov, Turkophile
Sometimes, I am really amazed by the sweet naivety of some questions.

有時(shí)候，我真的很驚訝為什么有人能問出這么天真的問題。

But then, when I read the responses, I realize why the quality of knowledge has gone so much down, when privileged people, from their point of view, think always from thousands of kilometers away, anywhere from Goteborg, Oslo, Helsinki, Berlin, etc., that they know about things, that’s miles apart from their wisdom.
We live in a time, especially after social media generation, where everyone became a mouth without any repercussions like we had when we were young and had some shame and dignity to know ‘’when to speak and when to be silent in front of wisdom’’, with that, the whole aura of Europe, the land of the ‘’Denker and Dichter’’ of the 19th century, is long gone.
I miss all the accomplished anthropologists, sociologists, orientalists, historians, poets, and thinkers of the time when I went to school, who don't just have to say `` three words '' for a question like today, but everything from a broad perspective and did not write something down with their ass, sitting at home in front of their gas heater and Apple PC, but were at least experts about several countries in depth around the world to know their sociological truths.
Anyway, I will not make it long, because this IQ generally does not exist on this page, so I will do it like these writers, short and quick, but full in-depth.

隨后，當(dāng)我閱讀到回復(fù)時(shí)，我才意識到為什么人們獲得的知識質(zhì)量下降了這么多。因?yàn)樘貦?quán)階層的人，他們所謂的對某些事情的了解，總是從數(shù)千公里之外的地方，從哥德堡、奧斯陸、赫爾辛基、柏林等地，”聽說了“他們知道的事情，這與他們的智慧相去甚遠(yuǎn)。
我們生活在這樣一個(gè)時(shí)代，你可以稱之為社交媒體時(shí)代，每個(gè)人都可以叭叭叭地說出他們的想法，不像我們年輕時(shí)，你得有羞恥心和敬畏心去知道“什么時(shí)候在智者面前說話，什么時(shí)候在智者面前沉默”，而現(xiàn)在，整個(gè)歐洲，19世紀(jì)“哲學(xué)家和思想家”的土地早已不復(fù)存在。
我想念我上學(xué)時(shí)所有有成就的人類學(xué)家、社會(huì)學(xué)家、東方學(xué)家、歷史學(xué)家、詩人和思想家，他們不必為今天這樣的問題做出回答，而是從廣闊的角度來看一切，不必坐在家里的燃?xì)饧訜崞骱吞O果電腦前，用屁股思考然后隨便寫下什么。他們至少得是深入了解某個(gè)國家的專家才能解答這些社會(huì)學(xué)真理。
無論如何，我不會(huì)把它寫得太長，因?yàn)檫@些讀者的IQ通常不足以支持他們進(jìn)行思考，所以我會(huì)像這些答者一樣，寫得短而快，但很深入。


This here is Guenther Verheugen:

這是根瑟·維赫根

Who was Guenther?
‘’Nominated by the German government of Chancellor Gerhard Schr?der, Verheugen first served in the European Commission as European Commissioner for Enlargement…’’
This means he was the sole Representative of the European unx during the Enlargement Process for the new 10 Members of the European unx who became Member in 2004 and was responsible also for the Membership of Turkey, to negotiate, organize, advise these countries and the EU in the Enlargement Affairs.

他是誰？
“由德國總理格哈德·施羅德政府提名，維赫根首先在歐盟委員會(huì)擔(dān)任歐盟擴(kuò)大專員……”
這意味著他是2004年成為歐盟新成員國的10個(gè)歐盟成員國在進(jìn)入歐盟過程中的唯一代表，并負(fù)責(zé)土耳其的成員資格，在擴(kuò)大事務(wù)中談判、組織、向這些國家和歐盟提供咨詢。

Additional work:
FleishmanHillard, Member of the International Advisory Board
German-Azerbaijani Forum, Member of the Board of Trustees
German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP), Member
Turkey: Culture of Change Initiative (TCCI), Member of the Advisory Board
National Association of German Cooperative Banks (BVR), Advisor (since 2010)
Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), Senior Advisor (since 2010)
Günter Verheugen - Wikipedia

其他職位：
Fleishmanhillad國際咨詢委員會(huì)成員
德國阿塞拜疆論壇董事會(huì)成員
德國外交關(guān)系委員會(huì)（DGAP）成員
土耳其：變革文化倡議（TCCI）咨詢委員會(huì)成員
德國合作銀行（BVR）全國協(xié)會(huì)顧問（自2010年起）
蘇格蘭皇家銀行（RBS）高級顧問（自2010年起）
根特·維赫根 - 維基百科

As you see, not a simple ‘’Orospusson’’ from any Nordic countries who pretend to know anything about the enlargement and answers here around 100 times the same ‘’EU-Turkey’’ with obsession, same 3–4 lines and actually is an active PKK supporter, just like his country.

正如你所看到的，他不是來自任何北歐國家的一個(gè)簡單的“懂哥”，他們假裝知道任何關(guān)于歐盟擴(kuò)大成員國的事情，并癡迷于回答“歐盟-土耳其”這樣的問題，他們能回答100次，都不帶重樣的，他實(shí)際上是一個(gè)積極的庫爾德工人黨支持者，就像他的國家一樣。

Guenther, I’ll quote, in a debate clearly explained what he thinks about Turkey’s membership:
‘’I would like to underline one thing, always remember, always remember, it is not Erdogan who will become a member of the EU, but we are talking about a great, important, proud, European folk, one of the largest Europan nations.
One that has been promised for 60 years, for 60, sixty years, that it will be part of it. And this promise has not been kept for 60 years.

我要引用根瑟的話，他在一次辯論中清楚地解釋了他對土耳其歐盟成員資格的看法：
“我想強(qiáng)調(diào)一件事，永遠(yuǎn)記住，永遠(yuǎn)記住，我們不是在討論埃爾多安將成為歐盟成員，我們談?wù)摰氖且粋€(gè)偉大、重要、自豪的歐洲民族，歐洲最大的國家之一。
一個(gè)60年，60年，60年之久的承諾，即它將成為歐盟的一部分。這一承諾已經(jīng)60年沒有兌現(xiàn)了。
原創(chuàng)翻譯：龍騰網(wǎng) http://www.top-shui.cn 轉(zhuǎn)載請注明出處


If you say here (to the moderator), that the EU opens new chapters with Turkey in the process and breaks the law now, sorry, let me remind you one thing, it was the idea of the German government here, to ACCELERATE THE PROCESS OF THE MEMBERSH?P, in return for, in return for, that Turkey does the dirty job for Europe and keep the refugees away from our borders, but again kept not their promise.

如果你在這里（對主持人）說，歐盟在這個(gè)過程中與土耳其開啟了新的篇章，而現(xiàn)在這是違法的，那對不起，讓我提醒你一件事，德國政府對此事的想法是，加快土耳其成員資格獲取的進(jìn)程，以換取土耳其為歐洲做臟活，讓難民遠(yuǎn)離我們的邊界，但又一次，歐盟沒有履行他們的承諾。

Our policy towards Turkey is simply '' dishonest '' to say the least, the least.
She has a decade-long promise, but she hears from Germany and France and here today from the guests: '' We don't want you, no matter what you do, you will not become a member ... ''
I conducted the talks myself at the time. Believe me, I have dealt with all 10 new members, including Turkey, and Turkey was the most reform-minded country among all the new candidates, none of them were able to carry out as many reforms as Turkey between 2002-2006.
But how did it happen that a country that we certified in 2005 that is sufficiently democratic and ready for EU admission that we talk about other things today?

至少，至少可以說，我們對土耳其的政策是“不誠實(shí)的”。
歐盟對土耳其許下了一個(gè)有數(shù)十年之久的承諾，但她從德國和法國以及今天的來賓那里聽到的卻是：“我們不想要你，不管你做什么，你都不會(huì)成為歐盟成員……”
當(dāng)時(shí)我親自主持了會(huì)談。相信我，我已經(jīng)與包括土耳其在內(nèi)的所有10個(gè)新成員打過交道，而土耳其是所有新候選人中最具改革意識的國家，在2002-2006年期間，沒有一個(gè)國家能像土耳其那樣進(jìn)行如此多的改革。
一個(gè)本可以在2005年被認(rèn)證的充分民主、準(zhǔn)備加入歐盟的國家，今天卻完全不是那么回事了，這是怎么發(fā)生的呢？

Moderator: What happened?
Verheugen: I can tell you exactly. Because from 2006 onwards, politics changed in Europe and after the elections in Germany and France, we lost this membership in the hands of populism and the motto was no longer you become a member, but instead, no matter what you do, you do not belong to it, you are not European, you are Muslim and much more. We have lost the influence on the internal matters of Turkey totally.
At that time I was able to call Erdogan personally and say: `` My friend, you don't do that, otherwise, there will be worse later in the Commission and differently, and he followed my words because he believed that we, the Europeans are really honest and they will join at the end.

主持人：發(fā)生了什么？
維赫根：我可以確切地告訴你。因?yàn)閺?006年開始，歐洲的政治發(fā)生了變化，德國和法國的選舉之后，我們失去了民粹主義黨派手中的成員資格，我們的座右銘不再是你將加入歐盟，而是，無論你做什么，你都不屬于它，你不是歐洲人，你是穆斯林，等等。我們完全失去了對土耳其政局的影響。
當(dāng)時(shí)，我親自打電話給埃爾多安，說：`我的朋友，你別這樣做，否則，委員會(huì)的情況會(huì)更糟，而且會(huì)跟你想的不同。他聽了我的話，因?yàn)樗嘈盼覀儦W洲人是誠實(shí)的，他們最終會(huì)被準(zhǔn)許加入歐盟。

Therefore I appeal to all European leaders today to finally stop this dishonest policy towards Turkey. Call them to a summit, sit together and speak openly about what needs to be done or not to become a member or not.’’
The long version for those who understand the language of the leader of Europe, Germany, here is the video:
Look, Democracy and Human rights today in Turkey, are not in the best form, and they went somehow backward the last 5–6 years. But to put the whole blame on Turkey, or a single Men, who was actually the most western obsessed politician that Turkey ever had, when you even block the essential chapters so that this country can’t become more democratic, humane and a successful market-oriented country and join at the end the unx, how a student should be able to graduate from that school if you stop and block him frequently since over 15 years to make his housework?

因此，我今天呼吁所有歐洲領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人停止對土耳其的不誠實(shí)政策。召集他們參加峰會(huì)，坐在一起，敞開了談，土耳其到底能不能成為歐盟的一員。
你看，土耳其今天的民主和人權(quán)狀況并不盡人意，而且在過去的5-6年中，它們反而以某種方式倒退了。但如果把全部責(zé)任都推到土耳其身上，或者辣個(gè)男人身上，那是不對的。他實(shí)際上是土耳其有史以來最親西方的政治家，你甚至關(guān)閉了最重要的通道，這樣這個(gè)國家不能變得更民主、更世俗化，并最終加入歐盟，如果一個(gè)學(xué)生在15年多的時(shí)間里上學(xué)斷斷續(xù)續(xù)的，并阻止他做功課，他怎么能從那所學(xué)校畢業(yè)呢？

Someone needs to do his housework, joins all the exams so that you can say at the end: ‘’Yes or No’’
Not to mention, that the access paper of Turkey, is a contract, what never ever before in European history was pressured to any other member, because it states, even when Turkey completes all chapters successfully, the members are free to decide on their own, via referendum, or political decision, if Turkey shall become a member or not and the EU has the right to assess if European unx is able to take in such a large country from a political and economical standpoint.
This means it’s a dead-born baby from begin.

一個(gè)學(xué)生需要做功課，所有的考試都考一遍，這樣你才可以得到結(jié)論：你到底行不行
更不用說，土耳其的歐盟通行證就像是一份合同，歐洲歷史上從未向任何其他成員國施加過壓力，因?yàn)樗岢?，即便土耳其成功地滿足了所有加入歐盟的條件，成員國也可以通過公民投票或政治決定，土耳其是否應(yīng)該成為成員國，歐盟有權(quán)評估歐盟是否能夠從政治和經(jīng)濟(jì)角度接納這樣一個(gè)大國。
這意味著它從一開始就是一個(gè)死胎。

But the Turks still believed and put their asses on this road from 1999 to 2010.
In the end, they were slapped for an X time into their face and the chapter was opened to another direction for Turkey’s politics after 2010.
Therefore, the whole tale of Lafontaine of Democracy, Human rights, that boys, the Turks don’t eat anymore, because you fucked their future forever, they’ll never forgive that and believe again.
I end it with the words of EU Foreign Relations Representative, Josep Borrell, who last year in a debate on Turkey sanctions inside of the European Parliament has told this:
‘’I’m amazed to see under this roof of parliament, which was created after the bloodshed of WW2 to bring an end to the conflicts in the region and stands for the democracy in Europe, that today, after hearing most of the speeches, I felt that we are preparing for a crusader war and some of us, wants to go back to the glorious times of European Empires and start the Holy Empire. But I will remind you all, it's not the time of the crusade. I'm also not the crusader commander, Johann of Austria’’

但從1999年到2010年，土耳其人仍然相信他們能夠加入歐盟并在這條路上投入了大量精力。
最后，他們得到的是被扇了X次耳光，于是開啟了2010年后土耳其政治的另一個(gè)方向。
因此，拉·封丹關(guān)于民主、人權(quán)的毒雞湯，朋友們，土耳其人不再信這套了，因?yàn)槟阋呀?jīng)永遠(yuǎn)毀了他們的未來，他們永遠(yuǎn)不會(huì)原諒你，也不會(huì)再相信你。
最后，我要用歐盟外交關(guān)系代表約瑟普·博雷爾的話來結(jié)束這場辯論。他去年在歐洲議會(huì)內(nèi)部就制裁土耳其問題進(jìn)行辯論時(shí)說：
“我很驚訝地看到，在這個(gè)議會(huì)的屋頂下，時(shí)至今日，在聽了大部分演講后，我感覺我們正在準(zhǔn)備一場十字軍東征，我們中的一些人正在準(zhǔn)備一場十字軍東征，想要回到歐洲帝國的輝煌時(shí)代，建立神圣的地上天國。但我要提醒大家，現(xiàn)在不是十字軍東征的時(shí)代了。我也不是十字軍指揮官，奧地利的約翰“

Additional Edit:
Back in 2016 the European unx and Turkey struck a deal over the Refugee problem:
Turkey will stop the refugee influx into Europe and for that, the EU will do the following points
EU will pay Turkey 6 billion Euros.
EU will offer Turkey visa-free entry.
EU will accelerate the membership and open new chapters that are blocked.
Since then, the refugee influx has decreased by 93 %.
2021, after 5 years:
Only 2.3 billion Euros arrived in Turkey.
Visa-free entry is still not allowed.
No chapter was opened for the EU membership.
A signed contract, black on white, an international agreement, from the most democratic unx of the World, promised. You can see the result?
Then when Turkey said in 2019, enough is enough, I can hold anymore over 4 million refugees here, and don’t care wherever they want to go,
Titles of European Magazines and Newspapers:
‘’Erdogan threatens Europe’’ ‘’Turkey pressures Europe with Refugees’’ ‘’Turkey did this and that’’ not even aware or a single knowledge of, that they have offered, signed and promised a legal international contract and did not keep their promise. But that’s totally unimportant, they can break laws from morning to evening.
PS：

早在2016年，歐盟和土耳其就難民問題達(dá)成協(xié)議：
土耳其將阻止難民涌入歐洲，為此，歐盟將采取以下措施
歐盟將向土耳其支付60億歐元。
歐盟將為土耳其公民提供免簽證入境。
歐盟將加速土耳其加入歐盟的進(jìn)程，并開啟新篇章。
自那時(shí)以來，難民潮減少了93%。
2021年，5年后：
只有23億歐元被支付給土耳其。
仍然不允許土耳其公民免簽證入境。
沒有為歐盟成員資格開設(shè)任何通道。
一份由世界上最民主的聯(lián)盟簽署的黑白合同，一份國際協(xié)議，一份承諾書。你看到結(jié)果了嗎？
然后當(dāng)土耳其在2019年說，行了行了，我可以在這里再容納400多萬難民，不管他們想去哪里，我都愿意收留
而歐洲雜志和報(bào)紙的標(biāo)題卻是：
“埃爾多安威脅歐洲”“土耳其向歐洲施加難民壓力”“土耳其做了這件事，土耳其做了那件事”。他們不知道或一點(diǎn)也不知道，他們提供、簽署和承諾了一份有國際法效力的國際合同，并且沒有遵守他們的承諾。但這完全不重要，他們可以從早到晚違反他們自己的法律。

Is there any Turk who is shocked?
I don’t think so, they know all of this for years, the Turks are awake, just 99% of the Europeans are still sleeping with any dreams of freedom of expression and such things and really believe in it. My pity for you all.
Thanks.

這里有沒有土耳其人會(huì)對此感到震驚呢？
我不這么認(rèn)為，他們知道這一切已經(jīng)很多年了，土耳其人已經(jīng)醒了，剩下的99%的歐洲人卻還在睡覺，他們?nèi)匀粔魢抑哉撟杂珊椭T如此類的事情，并且真的相信他們夢囈的一切。我為你們所有人感到同情。
謝謝。