崩壞3動畫短片《阿波卡利斯如是說》油管評論
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“要么作為英雄而死,要么茍活到目睹自己變成惡棍”
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”You either DIE a HERO, or LIVE LONG enough to see yourself become the VILLAIN.”
He did both.
He lived a villain.
He died a hero.
Rest in peace, Otto Apocalypse.
“要么作為英雄而死,要么茍活到目睹自己變成惡棍”
他都做到了。
他作為惡人而活。
他作為英雄去死。
安息吧,奧托阿波卡利斯。
"Died a hero" By murdering 500 years worth of humanity?
摧殘人類500年也算“作為英雄去死”?
@DiGi he created a different timeline where Kallen didnt die in exchange for his life and existence in both world, the current timeline is unaffected
他創(chuàng)造了一條不同的時間線,在那里卡蓮沒有死于換取奧托的性命在兩個世界的存在,當前的時間線不受影響。
And just like that. All it took was one CG and everyone are now calling him a hero and ignore all the atrocities he committed in his life lM.
Idk why you simps like to paint him a hero when Otto himself never views himself as a fucking hero.
就像這樣,只需要一部動畫短片,所有人就都稱他為英雄,無視他一生中犯下的所有罪行,笑死我了。
我不知道為什么你們這些傻瓜喜歡把他描繪成英雄,而奧托自己卻從來不把自己當成什么狗屁的英雄。
Hero? You stupid or what?
英雄?你是傻還是怎么回事?
Everlasting Flame: For all the beauty in the world
Thus spoke Apocalypse: For the only beauty in the world
薪炎永燃:為了世界上所有的美好
阿波卡利斯如是說:為了世界上唯一的美好
Is Otto's desire finally fulfilled? Yes.
Was he able to see Kallen one last time? Probably.
Does Kallen knew he 'saved' her? No.
Did he die? Most likely.
If they ever meet and circumstances were known, he would only receive disdain and utter hate from her but this he understand.
The moment that he started his 'journey' of 'saving' her, he never once hesitated.
He knew that when he made 'that' mistake, he lose the right to become happy and yet he never grieved.
He immediately set out to find a way to correct such mistake but unfortunately only by pilling more of it was what he can see.
Such is not a tale of love but of a man blindly seeking the only "right" thing that he believed to exist in his world.
The "Apocalypse's" crest became the sorry existence for this tragic dream.
奧托的愿望最后實現(xiàn)了嗎?是的。
他能見到卡蓮最后一面嗎?可能。
卡蓮知道他“救”了她嗎?不知道。
他死了嗎?很有可能。
如果他們見了面,情況被了解,她只會瞧不起他,痛恨他,但他明白這一點。
從他開始“拯救”她的“旅程”的那一刻起,他就從未猶豫過。
他知道,當他犯下“那樣的”錯誤時,他就失去了快樂的權利,但他從不悲傷。
他立即開始尋找糾正這種錯誤的方法,但不幸的是,他造成了更多的錯誤。
這不是一個愛情故事,而是一個男人盲目地尋找唯一“正確”的東西的故事,因為他相信這樣的東西存在于他的世界。
阿波卡利斯的紋章因為這個悲劇的夢想成為了遺憾的存在。
There's a little part after this video in the game,Kallen know this now
在游戲中,這段視頻之后還有一小部分,所以卡蓮是知道的。
@Ziming Zhou I see. Thanks for pointing it out! I was just overwhelmed with emotion that I suddenly had the urge to write this. Will be checking it out soon.
我明白了。謝謝你指出來!我只是因為情緒激動讓我突然有了寫這些的沖動。我會去看看的。
Isn’t she in love with yae? Sorry if this is controversial
卡蓮不是喜歡八重櫻嗎?如果這有爭議的話我很抱歉
@Karma Kitty Ye she is, but Otto is fine with her loving someone else as long as she's alive.
是的,但奧托不介意她喜歡其他人,只要她活著。
@Karma Kitty
Yae is dead at this point, and Otto only wants to give Kallen a chance to live. Whether she hates Otto or not, he doesn't care at this point
這時候八重櫻已經(jīng)死了,而奧托只想給卡蓮一個活下去的機會。不管她恨不恨奧托,現(xiàn)在的他不在乎。
Otto has my respect, he is one of the best villains and well written characters in the game. And thank you Mihoyo for another masterpiece.
奧托獲得了我的尊重,他是游戲中最優(yōu)秀的反派、也是塑造得很好的角色之一。感謝米忽悠做出又一部杰作。
100 percent agree
我完全同意。
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Bro, Otto is stupid clown who started GENO.... only to try to resurrect girl, who already has girlfriend. I don't know in which place you can call him great villain
兄弟,奧托是個愚蠢的小丑,他僅僅想要復活一個已經(jīng)有女朋友的妹子就開始大屠殺。我不知道他哪個地方讓你可以稱他為大反派。
@Цой Кирилл you are the clown
你才是小丑
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fr this was a banger, otto may be the bad guy but i still find his and kallen's story sad af. nor kallen or otto deserved that
奧托可能是個壞人,但我還是覺得他和卡蓮的故事很悲傷,這不是他和卡蓮應該遭受的。
@Цой Кирилл read the lore and come back, child
去看看故事再回來,孩子
@Raiden Mei people don't read the lore and call him a simp make me sick ngl
有人不看故事,還說他愚蠢,老實說這讓我惡心
@Цой Кирилл He doesn't want Kallen's love, he just want to give what Kallen deserved
他不想要獲得卡蓮的愛,他只想給卡蓮她應得的。
Man ain't otta and Obito are the same
兄弟,奧托和宇智波帶土不是一樣嗎
Love Otto's Chinese VA. He's got mad skills!
Edit: just found his name: Zhao Lu. He is also the VA for Ayato in Genshin
喜歡奧托的中文配音演員。他的能力好強!
剛找到他的名字:趙路。他也是原神里凌人的配音。
Hoping Ayato will be as badass as Otto. And just as important of a character too.
希望凌人是像奧托一樣的壞人,也希望是同樣重要的角色。
Now I see this as this:
Himeko's sacrifice is like one for all, herself for Kiana, and for the future of their world and making it a better place, as Kiana would live on carrying her legacy.
For Otto, it's for Kallen to live a better life, knowing damn well it will create some problems for the future in their world, but he did it all for her to live fairly, like all for one.
我是這么理解的:
姬子的犧牲是一個人為了一切,她為了琪亞娜,為了她們世界的未來,為了讓世界變得更美好,因為琪亞娜將傳承她的意志。
對奧托來說,是為了讓卡蓮活得更好,他很清楚這樣做會給他們的世界帶來一些問題,但他做的一切都是為了她公平地生活,是一些為了一個人。
From what I understood he won't create any problem for the future in their world, what he did was break the 4th dimension (time) and create a new branch, meaning, a new timeline where the one and only her is alive and well, after all the imaginary tree, being the source of all life and its universes, being in constant growth, it should be able to create the world Otto wants if he can reach it and manipulate it.
根據(jù)我的理解,這不會對他們世界的未來產(chǎn)生麻煩,他所做的是打破第四維度(時間),創(chuàng)造一個新的分支,也就是一條新的時間線,在那里,唯一的她還活著,這畢竟是虛數(shù)之樹,是所有生命和宇宙的起源,是在不斷增長的,它應該能夠創(chuàng)造出奧托想要的世界,如果他能夠觸及并操縱它的話。
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@Tiago Rocha yeah ,its just the process and his own doings that got him to finally succeed making a new branch, all for the person he loves, for her to live a life she deserves, it got me thinking on how it’s all for one, he knew what he did was wrong, he’s fully aware, yet he proceeded forward for a new branch.
I pretty much respect him as a great villain troupe that sacrifices all for one person.
是的,就是這個過程和他自己的所作所為,讓他最終成功地創(chuàng)造了一個新的分支,一切都是為了他所愛的人,為了讓她過上她應得的生活,這讓我想到這是一切為了一個人,他知道他所做的是錯誤的,他完全清楚,但他還是為了一個新分支而前進。
我非常尊重他,因為他是一個大反派,為了一個人犧牲一切。
@Chlo912 Actually, there is a reason why he won't just rewind time in that branch (their timeline). Because as otto mentioned, a vessel couldn't gather a mind (soul) that already gone. So, even if he rewind the time, the 'world' wouldn't allow that. For reference, zhunge kongmimg story.
So instead, he create an 'empty' branch then comeback to the time where kallen soul still in her body and then save her. With this method, he rerouted the flowing of time to the new branch thus creating a new timeline. Pretty much otto yeeted kallen to new timeline.
This also explain why the sky turned from night to day. Cuz, time was 'followed' otto.
事實上,他不讓他們那條時間線倒流是有原因的,因為正如奧托所說,一個容器無法收集已經(jīng)消失的靈魂。所以,即使他讓時間倒流,“世界”也不允許這種情況發(fā)生。舉個例子,諸葛孔明的故事。
因此作為替代,他創(chuàng)造了一個“空白”的分支,然后回到卡蓮的靈魂仍在她體內的時候,并救下她。通過這種方法,他將時間流導向新的分支,從而創(chuàng)造了一條新的時間線?;旧鲜菉W托把卡蓮給帶到了新的時間線。
這也解釋了天空從黑夜變成白天的原因。因為時間是“遵從”奧托的。
Its fitting how Otto chooses the Judgment of Shamash(aka Might of An'Utu) as his last weapon.
It symbolizes his dedication to sacrifice himself for the one he loves, which is ironically a Kaslana weapon and motif to risk their lives for the ones they love.
Its also a weapon notorious for killing its user for the price of its destructive power.
Otto knew that this would be his final moment and he defiantly charged forward.
奧托選擇了天火自裁來作為他最后的武器,這很合適。
它象征著他為了所愛的人犧牲,諷刺的是,這是卡斯蘭納家族的武器,宗旨是為了他們所愛的人冒生命危險。
它也是一把臭名昭著的武器,以其強大的破壞力為代價殺死它的使用者。
奧托知道這將是他最后的時刻,而他勇敢地向前沖去。
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That’s beautiful
這很美
Yeah Kallen’s father also used it to save Kallen’s life before. It’s quite sad that two of the people she loved sacrificed themselves using basically the same weapon. If Kallen is the world then Otto is her Kaslana.
Also before I get hate for saying Kallen loved Otto she did love Otto as her best friend. Her Great Inventor.
It’s so sad that Kallen made Otto promise that he wouldn’t die for her. But Otto spent the next 500 years breaking that promise.
是的,卡蓮的父親以前也用它來救了卡蓮的命。她所愛的兩個人用同一把武器犧牲自己來救她,這很悲傷。如果卡蓮是世界,那么奧托就是她的卡斯蘭娜。
另外,以前我討厭說卡蓮愛著奧托,但她確實愛著奧托,把奧托當做她最好的朋友,她的大發(fā)明家。
卡蓮曾經(jīng)讓奧托保證他不會為了她而死,但奧托在接下來的500年里違背了這個承諾,這太讓人難過了。
I'm glad there's people who look deeper into things than me, thank you
我很高興有人比我看問題更深入,謝謝
I hate Otto, but I just realized one thing. His goal was to save humanity, and Kallen was the pure, perfect, beautiful embodiment of it.
He caused a lot of deaths, destruction and suffering, but in his eyes, he never harmed the humanity, because it was not there anymore... it was gone with her.
我討厭奧托,但我剛剛意識到一件事。他的目標是拯救人類,而卡蓮就是這一目標的純潔、完美、美麗的化身。
他造成了很多死亡、破壞和痛苦,但在他眼里,他從未傷害過人類,因為人類已經(jīng)不存在了……已經(jīng)隨著她的死亡而消失了。
Yeah I still hate otto to this day but I can respect his determination
And I love kallen so all is well
是的,直到現(xiàn)在我仍然討厭奧托,但我尊重他的決心。
而且我喜歡卡蓮,所以這沒問題。
Over five hundred years of dedication to a single goal, to a single person. And this man accomplished it.
五百多年的犧牲只為了一個目標,為了一個人,而他做到了。
But at what cost?
但代價是什么呢?
@Umigamingz nothing. He doesn't care what it costs. He justs do it cause he wants to
沒有。他不在乎什么代價。他想做然后就做了。
I swore that I would never forgive Otto, but I changed my mind. Seeing his determination really changed my view on him. From the moment he gave his message to Theresa, and then, when he finally reached Kallen and deliver his final words. God freaking heck do I cried. Seriously crying. No other Honkai cinematic ever did this to me, and why it must be you, Otto, the one that we all despised so much? I can't believe it, but you did it, you absolute mad man!
We might not ever could condone his crimes, but the least that we could do is to wish him peace. He suffered hundreds of years just for the one that he loved. He dedicate his life, willing to play as the bad guy just to change history, to undo his wrong, to save her that he cannot save.
Otto is human just like all of us. He was a fragile, wounded soul, tormented and twisted into a wretched person that he was... But deep inside, he's still human. He cared, he loved, and he's willing to sacrifice himself for others. He's even willing to sacrifice the whole world, just for she that saved his childhood.
Rest in peace, Otto Apocalypse. Best written villain, and one of the best character in the whole series. The one that we hate the most, and the one that we respect the most.
我曾發(fā)誓永遠不會原諒奧托,但我改變了想法。我看到了他的決心,這真的改變了我對他的看法。從他給德麗莎留言的那一刻,到他終于找到卡蓮,說出最后一句話,天啊,我他媽的哭了,真的哭了。沒有其他崩壞動畫做到這一點,為什么一定是你,奧托,那個我們如此鄙視的人?我不敢相信,但你做到了,你這個十足的瘋子!
我們可能永遠都不會寬恕他的罪行,但我們至少可以愿他安息。就為了他所愛的人,他受了幾百年的苦。他犧牲了自己的生命,愿意扮演壞人,只是為了改變歷史,為了彌補自己的錯誤,為了拯救他無法拯救的她。
奧托和我們一樣也是人。他是一個脆弱、受傷的靈魂,飽受折磨,扭曲成了一個可憐的人。但在內心深處,他還是個人。他關心,他愛護,他愿意為他人犧牲自己。他甚至愿意犧牲整個世界,就為了那個拯救了他童年的她。
安息吧,奧托阿波卡利斯。塑造得最好的反派,也是整個系列中最好的角色之一。他是我們最討厭的人,也是我們最尊重的人。
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"Time to leave where I have stood so long"
Favorite line after knowing his story. Time to rest Otto
“是時候離開我待了這么久的地方了”
在了解他的故事后,這是我最喜歡的臺詞。該休息了奧托。
I keep forgetting that this a game, and not an anime or movie. This much dedication goes into a game, that too one that was originally a mobile game.
Otto is a very well written villain. He represents human desires that are too selfish to be suppressed very well. There is a lot of realism in his character. I only admire his dedication towards Kallen, who he believed was generically wronged by the world and deserved and ending where she could continue to do what she enjoyed. But then there's all the other very messed up shit he's done, he might have a strong will but his obsession with delivering "justice" satisfied him in the end, but the process arguably did more harm than good for the others around him. Eitherway, it is a fitting end for his character.
我總是忘記這是一款游戲,而不是動畫或電影。這么多精力投入到了一款游戲中,一款最初只是手機游戲的游戲。
奧托是一個塑造得非常好的反派。他代表了人類的欲望,這些欲望太過于自私以至于無法很好地抑制。他的性格中有很多現(xiàn)實主義色彩。我只是佩服他對卡蓮的犧牲,他認為卡蓮被這個世界不公正的對待,她應該以繼續(xù)做自己喜歡做的事為結局。但是,他做了很多非常糟糕的事情,他可能有強烈的意志,但最后,他對傳遞“正義”的癡迷讓他欣慰,然而這個過程對他周圍的人來說傷害多于益處。無論如何,對他的角色來說,這是個合適的結局。
No matter how much of an ass Otto is, I’ll admit this. He is the epitome of a man. Through 500 years, he suffered, sacrificed and persevered. He did so many things, committed countless atrocities and killed dozens of people and yet not once did he waver from his goal.His strong will and determination just awes me beyond belief. And now at long last, his wish has been fulfilled. Gotta say Allen is one lucky girl to have charmed such a man lol.
不管奧托有多混蛋,我都承認,他就是混蛋。他是個男人的典范。500年來,他經(jīng)歷了苦難、犧牲并鍥而不舍。他做了那么多事情,犯下了無數(shù)暴行,殺害了很多人,但他對自己的目標從未動搖過。他堅強的意志和決心讓我敬畏?,F(xiàn)在,經(jīng)歷了長久的堅持,他的愿望終于實現(xiàn)了。不得不說,能夠迷住了這樣一個男人,卡蓮是個幸運的女孩,哈哈。
You don't have to suffer, to sacrifice and to commit crimes just to be a "real" man xDD Yeah I admire Otto for his perseverance and his indifference, but it is SO wrong to call him "the epitome of a man". Imagine there are some kids reading your comment and after they finish reading it they are like: "Yeah man!!! That's soo cool! When I grow up I want to be !! I want to sacrifice, to suffer and to commit countless crimes to be a REAL MAN!!"
成為一個“真正的”男人,你不必受苦、犧牲和犯罪。是的,我欽佩奧托的毅力和冷漠,但稱他為“男人的典范”是大錯特錯的。想象一下,一些孩子讀了你的評論,他們讀完后會說:“耶!!這太酷了!當我長大后,我要成為“男人的典范”!我想要犧牲、受苦、犯下無數(shù)罪行,成為一個真正的男人??!”
@MAKEOUTHILL 999 And yet the same kids will grow up to see that it's not "sacrifice and kill" that makes one a "man"... Chill out, they are just sharing their opinion on Otto, and it's not as if it was the absolute truth
然而同樣的孩子長大后會明白,并不是“犧牲和殺戮”使一個人成為“男人”,冷靜點,他是在分享他對奧托的看法,而且這并不是絕對的事實。
? @MAKEOUTHILL 999 chill dude, otto is a villain, we all know that. I'm sure no kid in the world is dumb enough to follow his footsteps because some rando on the net called him the 'epitome of a man'.
冷靜,兄弟,奧托是個惡人,我們都知道這點。我敢肯定,世界上沒有哪個孩子會蠢到因為網(wǎng)上有人把他稱為“男人的典范”而追隨他的腳步。
For! Those that didn’t understand what Otto did, he just created another Timeline where Kallen’s death is Prevented instead of changing the current timeline.
寫給那些不明白奧托做了什么的人,他創(chuàng)造了另一條阻止卡蓮死亡的時間線,而不是改變當前的時間線。
I still dont understand if he could do that then why did he tell everyone that the outside os kolosten will be returned 500 years
我還是不明白,如果他能做到這一點,那他為什么要告訴所有人他要讓時間倒流500年?
@Oregon32 that is a lie so doodoo and kiana have motivate to beat him
這是個謊言,以便幽蘭戴爾和琪亞娜有動力打敗他
His goal wasn't to bring back Kallen after all. It was to create a past where she never left.
畢竟他的目標不是讓卡蓮復活,而是創(chuàng)造一個她從未死亡的過去。
@Oregon32 He basically lied/bluffed/goaded them into using their full powers because HoV's powers and the Abyss Flower at full power were neccessary things to get to the Imaginary Tree.
他基本上是在說謊、嚇唬、刺激他們,以便讓他們全力以赴,因為空律和黑淵白花的全部力量是到達虛數(shù)之樹的必要條件。
What ive always loved about these Animated Shorts is that the short Soundtracks between Fights are ALWAYS SO FUCKING GREAT!!
我一直喜歡這些動畫短片的地方是,打斗之間的配樂總是那么棒??!
I really want the whole story to be animated, the animation is just really good, the plot, the music and the well written characters and let's not lie the whole community wants to have it
我真的希望整個故事能做成動畫,動畫非常棒,情節(jié)、音樂和角色的塑造,說實話,整個社區(qū)都想看到這樣的動畫。
When he said “Kallen, live” it reminded me of the final lesson, same word himeko told kiana
當他說“卡蓮,活下去”時,我想起了《最后一課》,姬子對琪亞娜說過同樣的話。
I don't really know about the story of Honkai Impact, but this animation left me feel so... empty and on the verge of tears. The visuals, soundtrack, voice acting... Truly wonderful.
我不太了解崩壞3的故事,但這個動畫讓我覺得…空蕩蕩的,快要哭了。視覺效果、配樂、配音…真的很棒。
He doesn't look to be forgiven.
He doesn't expect to be forgiven.
But if it's for her... to force the universe to give her another chance, he'll do whatever it takes.
No matter what happens, no matter what he is forced to do, what he has to sacrifice, as long as she lives fairly, that is enough.
Let's be honest, it takes some really masterful writing to both make you hate a character so much and still make you feel and understand why he does what he does.
他不尋求被原諒。
他不指望被原諒。
但如果是為了她…為了迫使宇宙再給她一次機會,他會不惜一切代價。
無論發(fā)生什么,無論他被迫做什么,無論他要犧牲什么,只要她能公平的活著,這就夠了。
老實說,要讓你如此痛恨一個角色,同時又能讓你感受到并理解他為什么這么做,這需要一些高超的寫作技巧。
Looking at all the comments with the infamous Harvey's quote from The Dark Knight "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" is something I wholeheartedly agree, even when I first saw this that quote immediately come to mind. But later pondering on it and rewatching this again and listening to the song's video, I believe this quote is quite far from what the video is representing
See Otto's "love" was more of admirations instead of romantically; admiring Kallen's heroism and had always wanted to support her, being the Robin to her Batman. But when the World (Old Schicksal, Kaslana Household, etc.) didn't see her as the hero, Otto was dumbfounded. The first person who helped that sickly, weak boy 500+ years was treated as a criminal, a nuisance, another thing to be used and then discarded; His hero being treated as a villain. He tried his best to save her, but even she refused, as one of the Kaslana's annoying but admirably trait; their self-sacrifice and selflessness. But like Mei, Otto doesn't want her to carry everything by herself and desperately wished to share the burden, but again rejected. When she was killed by what could technically be by his own hands, I think that's when he snapped: waging war against his sister and nephew, experimenting and cloning, making deals that only benefits himself, and getting alot of people killed, others and even his own. All those were preparations, for the last 500 years, to revive the hero who shouldn't have died.
Like if Robin becoming the Joker for Batman to be relevant, like Snape needing to kill Dumbledore to save him but will looked like a betrayer, and even like Mei who have to become a Herrscher to save her dear friend....
"If you want to become the Hero , I will gladly be the Villain for you. But if the World treat you as Evil, I'll fight both them, God, and the Devil to prove them wrong."
看看哈維在《黑暗騎士》中那句臭名昭著的話:“要么作為英雄而死,要么茍活到目睹自己變成惡棍?!?我完全同意這句話,當我看動畫的時候,我第一時間就想起了這句話。但后來我想了想,又重新看了一遍,我認為這段話與動畫所表達的相去甚遠。
奧托的“愛”更多的是敬佩,而不是愛慕:欽佩卡蓮的英雄主義,想一直支持她,做蝙蝠俠的羅賓。但當世界(舊天命和卡斯蘭娜家族等)都不把她視為英雄時,奧托難以置信。500多年來,第一個幫助這個虛弱多病的男孩的人,竟然被視為罪犯、禍害、一個可以利用然后拋棄的東西;他的英雄被當作惡人來對待。他盡了最大的努力去救她,但就連她也拒絕了,因為這是卡斯蘭娜令人生氣但又令人欽佩的特點之一:他們的自我犧牲和無私。但和芽衣一樣,奧托也不想讓她獨自承擔一切,他非常希望能一起分擔,但又一次被拒絕了。當她被……也許技術上說是他親手殺死之后,我想那就是他崩潰的時候:對他的姐姐和侄子發(fā)動戰(zhàn)爭,進行實驗和克隆,做只對他自己有利的事,并導致很多人死亡,其他人,甚至他自己。在過去的500年里,他的所作所為都是為了讓本不該死去的英雄復活而做的準備。
就像羅賓為了蝙蝠俠成了小丑,就像斯內普需要殺死鄧布利多來救他,哪怕看起來會像一個叛徒,甚至像芽衣必須成為律者來拯救她親愛的朋友...
“如果你想成為英雄,我樂意為你做惡人。但如果世界把你當成惡魔,我將與上帝和魔鬼戰(zhàn)斗,證明他們是錯的?!?br />