日本在2021年接收了74名難民，創(chuàng)歷史新高
Japan accepted 74 refugees in 2021, highest on record
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日本在2021年向74名尋求庇護(hù)的人授予了難民身份，這是自1982年開(kāi)始承認(rèn)難民以來(lái)的最高水平
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TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Japan granted refugee status to 74 people seeking asylum in 2021, the highest level since it began recognizing refugees in 1982, the immigration agency said Friday.
東京（共同社）——日本移民局周五表示，日本在2021年向74名尋求庇護(hù)的人授予了難民身份，這是自1982年開(kāi)始承認(rèn)難民以來(lái)的最高水平。
While the number jumped from 27 in 2020, it remains significantly lower than in the West, where some countries accept more than 10,000 refugees annually.
雖然數(shù)量從2020年的27人增加了不少，但仍遠(yuǎn)低于西方國(guó)家，一些國(guó)家每年接收1萬(wàn)多名難民。
雖然數(shù)量從2020年的27人增加了不少，但仍遠(yuǎn)低于西方國(guó)家，一些國(guó)家每年接收1萬(wàn)多名難民。
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"72.....73.....74..... alright, that's enough, we're not running a charity over here!"
“72…73…74…好了，夠了，我們這不是做慈善的！”
It looks like something, but why does it feel like it's more insulting than if it were zero...
為什么感覺(jué)這個(gè)數(shù)字比零更侮辱人……
Because it is.
Zero would mean they just can’t do it
70 is showing that they can do it and choose not to
因?yàn)榫褪恰Ａ阋馕吨麄冏霾涣耍?0意味著他們能做但選擇不做。
A couple of years ago during the Syrian refugee crisis, Japan accepted something like 27 refugees (something under 30) out of roughly 5000 applicants if I remember correctly. Germany took in 1 MILLION refugees. (Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany)
如果我沒(méi)記，幾年前敘利亞難民危機(jī)期間，日本在大約5000申請(qǐng)者中接收了好像27名難民（總之少于30）. 德國(guó)接收了100萬(wàn)難民（當(dāng)然，這在德國(guó)引起了很大的抵制）。
I could understand why Japan wouldn’t take that many refugee and I really wouldn’t blame them.
我能理解日本不接收那么多難民的原因，我真的不怪他們。
Obviously, there's a massive spectrum from "under 30" like Japan and roughly 1M like Germany. Under 30 with over 5,000 applications though seems a bit low. As one of the leading economies in the world, does Japan not have a moral responsibility?
很明顯，像日本這樣“不到30人”和德國(guó)這樣大約100萬(wàn)人之間的差距很大。超過(guò)5000份申請(qǐng)只批準(zhǔn)了不到30人，這似乎有點(diǎn)低。作為世界領(lǐng)先的經(jīng)濟(jì)體之一，日本難道沒(méi)有一點(diǎn)道德責(zé)任嗎？
What are you smoking ? Japan had already gave the most humantarian aid among all asian country , despite on the refugee crisis is going on on europe especially germany and france. Japan government had their own right to put their country and the citizen benefits at the first place.
你什么毛??？日本已經(jīng)是所有亞洲國(guó)家里提供了最多人道援助的國(guó)家了，而難民危機(jī)正在歐洲特別是德國(guó)和法國(guó)上演。日本政府有權(quán)利把國(guó)家和人民的利益放在首位。
Sure but it’s not like Germany and France didn’t give anything. They gave humanitarian aid AND accepted refugees. All I’m saying is Japan could have probably been a bit more accepting. The population is shrinking and over aging. The country needs foreigners either way.
當(dāng)然，但德國(guó)和法國(guó)并不是什么都都沒(méi)提供。他們提供了人道援助并接收難民。我要表達(dá)的是，日本可以接收更多一點(diǎn)。他們的人口正在萎縮并且過(guò)度老齡化。不管怎樣，這個(gè)國(guó)家都需要外國(guó)人。
They do. But the critical issue is what *type* of foreigners, from where and of what quality/caliber. They want people who don't look too different, scary or big, i.e. Asian, they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt, and hardworking to fill in all the jobs that Japanese don't wanna do. They want obedient foreigners who obey Japanese law to the letter.
They -don't- want people raping their women/children, stealing their stuff, fighting their law enforcement officers, rioting and wrecking public/private property and failing to integrate to complex Japanese social norms and customs.
是的，但關(guān)鍵是什么樣的外國(guó)人，來(lái)自哪里，素質(zhì)、能力如何。他們想要的是看起來(lái)差異沒(méi)那么大，不太嚇人或太大塊的，也就是亞洲人，他們想要的是會(huì)日本漢字的人，能吃苦耐勞地完成日本人不想做的工作。他們想要絕對(duì)遵守日本法律的、順從的外國(guó)人。
他們不希望有人強(qiáng)奸他們的婦女兒童，盜竊物品，與執(zhí)法人員斗毆，暴亂和破壞公共、私人財(cái)產(chǎn)，不希望他們不融入復(fù)雜的日本社會(huì)規(guī)范和習(xí)俗。
I'm sure no country is keen on bringing in rapists and criminials. It's just a slippery slope to assume everyone who looks different is automatically a criminal. There are enough Japanese criminals too and I have yet to see a study that proves that foreigners are more likely to commit crimes.
The refugees from Ukraine are well educated and a lot of them speak English - certainly much better than the average Japanese.
Japan also needs people who can do the jobs that the Japanese cannot do due to lack of skills or experience. There's a reason there are so many foreigners in IT for example. The local talent pool is too limited in terms of quality and quantity.
There are enough foreigners - including many in this sub - who managed to learn the Japanese language and get accustomed to the local culture.
So, yeah, no country wants any criminals but simply painting all foreigners with a broad brush because they cannot read kanji is a dangerous oversimplification.
我確信沒(méi)有哪個(gè)國(guó)家想要引進(jìn)強(qiáng)奸犯和罪犯。把所有看起來(lái)不同的人都自動(dòng)假設(shè)為罪犯，這是錯(cuò)誤的。日本罪犯也很多，我還沒(méi)有看到過(guò)哪項(xiàng)研究證明外國(guó)人更容易犯罪。
來(lái)自烏克蘭的難民受過(guò)良好的教育，他們中的很多人都會(huì)說(shuō)英語(yǔ)——比普通日本人還要好。
有些工作，日本人由于缺乏技能或經(jīng)驗(yàn)而無(wú)法從事，日本也需要這些人。例如，IT 行業(yè)有這么多外國(guó)人是有原因的。當(dāng)?shù)厝瞬艓?kù)在質(zhì)量和數(shù)量上都過(guò)于有限。
有很多的外國(guó)人——包括這這個(gè)版塊中的很多人——努力學(xué)習(xí)日語(yǔ)，習(xí)慣當(dāng)?shù)匚幕?br /> 所以是的，沒(méi)有哪個(gè)國(guó)家想要罪犯，但僅僅因?yàn)橥鈬?guó)人不會(huì)日本漢字就把他們都打上一個(gè)標(biāo)簽，這是一種危險(xiǎn)的過(guò)度簡(jiǎn)化。
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Now you are talking about the refugees from Ukraine but before that you were referencing the Middle East refugee crisis where we saw millions flood into Germany, France, Sweden and Western and Northern Europe as a whole.
I don't think Japan views these 2 groups of refugees equally, if their actions tell us anything.
Also, the mass rioting during the Turkish elections in Tokyo where Japanese policemen got hurt, and what happened in Cologne, Germany on New Year's Eve, gave the Japanese a foretaste of what would ensue if they had opened the floodgates for refugees.
In a span of 2 months, Japan took in over 600 Ukrainian 'evacuees', more than the total number of refugees from the Middle East and Africa over a decade from 2010-2020. Shows us what they think of them refugees compared to the Ukrainians.
As for lack of IT talent, labor shortage, lack of English ability, shrinking workforce, yada yada, all of these are true. But how the Japanese people or their government plans to address this, or whether they do plan to even address it at all, is probably not how you envision it. It's definitely not "Let's take in more refugees!"
現(xiàn)在你說(shuō)的是烏克蘭難民，但之前你說(shuō)的是中東難民危機(jī)，數(shù)百萬(wàn)人涌入德國(guó)、法國(guó)、瑞典以及整個(gè)西歐和北歐。
如果他們的行為表明了什么的話，我認(rèn)為日本對(duì)這兩組難民的看法并不等同。
此外，在土耳其選舉期間發(fā)生的大規(guī)模騷亂中，東京日本的警察被打了，以及新年前夜在德國(guó)科隆發(fā)生的事件，讓日本人知道，如果他們?yōu)殡y民打開(kāi)大門(mén)，將會(huì)發(fā)生什么樣的結(jié)果。
在兩個(gè)月的時(shí)間里，日本接收了600多名烏克蘭“撤離者”， 超過(guò)了2010-2020年十年間來(lái)自中東和非洲的難民總數(shù)。這向我們表明了，與烏克蘭人相比，他們對(duì)這些難民的看法。
至于缺少I(mǎi)T人才、缺少勞動(dòng)力、缺乏英語(yǔ)能力、勞動(dòng)力萎縮等，這些都是事實(shí)。但日本人和政府打算如何解決這個(gè)問(wèn)題，或者他們是否真的打算解決這個(gè)問(wèn)題，可能跟你想的不一樣，絕對(duì)不是“讓我們接收更多難民！”
You are correct. The two groups are very different. And the high number of refugees in Germany for example certainly led to issues. No one is asking Japan to take in a million refugees over night.
I am happy that Japan took in Ukrainian refugees this time. What I'm concerned about is the "we are a homogenous society and can't/don't want foreigners. Japan is special/unique" rhetoric. It is dangerous and simply not true. Japan has unique aspects to it just like any other society, too. So far I have not seen any clear strategy how the government is trying to address the issue of a shrinking population.
你說(shuō)得對(duì)。這兩個(gè)群體非常區(qū)別很大。就像德國(guó)的太多難民會(huì)引發(fā)問(wèn)題。不過(guò)沒(méi)人會(huì)要求日本在一夜之間就接納100萬(wàn)難民。
我很高興日本這次接納了烏克蘭難民。我擔(dān)心的是“我們是個(gè)同質(zhì)社會(huì)，不能也不想要外國(guó)人。日本是特別的、獨(dú)特的”這種想法。這很危險(xiǎn)，而且根本不是事實(shí)。日本有其獨(dú)特的一面，但其他國(guó)家也有。到目前為止，我還沒(méi)有看到政府試圖解決人口減少這個(gè)問(wèn)題的明確策略。
There are many foreigners who’ve learned Japanese but equally as many foreigners who can barely speak a lick and god forbid read or write.
I’ve worked within a company that specializes in hiring foreigners including those on refugee status. Not a single refugee could speak Japanese beyond a 自己紹介 in my one year there and I’ve met plenty. God forbid even asking them to read Japanese.
There’s some truth that Japan is much harder to assimilate to than a place like America whether that be due to language reasons or even reasons of religion.
有許多外國(guó)人學(xué)過(guò)日語(yǔ)，但還有同樣多的外國(guó)人幾乎不會(huì)讀寫(xiě)。
我曾在一家專(zhuān)門(mén)招聘外國(guó)人的公司工作，在那里一年，我遇到了很多人，他們除了自我介紹外，沒(méi)有一個(gè)人能說(shuō)日語(yǔ)。
不幸的是，教育是一種特權(quán)，不是每個(gè)人都能享受到的，難民們也無(wú)法奢侈的立即在這里上語(yǔ)言學(xué)校。
事實(shí)上，日本比美國(guó)更難同化，無(wú)論是由于語(yǔ)言原因還是宗教原因。
they want people who are literate in Kanji scxt
So only Chinese and Taiwanese people? Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
“他們想要的是會(huì)日本漢字的人”
那就是只要中國(guó)（大陸）人和臺(tái)灣人嗎？很少有臺(tái)灣人會(huì)搬到日本。
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And Korean. And whoever else happens to display the capacity to learn and retain Kanji knowledge. Which I doubt the run-of-the-mill refugee would be able to.
Few Taiwanese will move to Japan.
I think that's only because Taiwan is relatively small in population, like 23 mil or so, similar to Australia. Or else we would be seeing more of them here.
還有韓國(guó)人，和那些有能力學(xué)習(xí)和記住日本漢字的人。我懷疑普通難民很難做到。
“很少有臺(tái)灣人會(huì)搬到日本”
我認(rèn)為這因?yàn)榕_(tái)灣的人口相對(duì)較少，只有大約2300萬(wàn)，和澳大利亞差不多。不然的話我們會(huì)看到更多的臺(tái)灣人搬去的。
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Koreans don't know kanji. They use their own scxt.
Few Koreans and Taiwanese care to move to Japan and it has nothing to do with the population size.
Research shows that emigration from a country slows down once a country hits $5,000 GDP per capita and sharply decreases when a country hits $10,000 GDP per capita.
If Japan only wants immigrants from Taiwan, Korea and China, that's a basically an elaborate way of saying that Japanese doesn't want any immigrants since few people from these country would move to Japan in the first place.
Furthermore, the population of Korea is already in decline and they're badly in need of immigrants. You can't expect a serious stream of immigrants from a country with a declining population.
韓國(guó)人不會(huì)漢字。他們用自己的文字。
很少有韓國(guó)人和臺(tái)灣人愿意搬到日本，這與人口規(guī)模無(wú)關(guān)。
研究顯示，當(dāng)一個(gè)國(guó)家的人均GDP達(dá)到5000美元時(shí)，往外移民就會(huì)變慢，當(dāng)人均GDP達(dá)到10000美元時(shí)，往外移民更是大大減少。
如果日本只想要臺(tái)灣（地區(qū)）、韓國(guó)和中國(guó)的移民，那基本上就是在委婉地表示不想要移民，因?yàn)檫@些國(guó)家（地區(qū)）的人本就很少會(huì)搬到日本。
另外，韓國(guó)的人口已經(jīng)在下降了，他們非常的需要移民。你不能指望一個(gè)人口不斷降低的國(guó)家會(huì)有大批移民涌入。
Granted, that led to a lot of backlash in Germany
Still was the right thing to do.
“當(dāng)然，這在德國(guó)引起了很大的抵制”
但這仍然是正確的做法。
Generally, yes but not sure if it had to be 1 million.
What I generally don't understand is, where is all the money coming from to accommodate the refugees? Or now with countries giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine. It's not like they had the money sitting in the bank. If they had that much money available, could they not use if for other issues they are facing at home? In the US that could include infrastructure (remember the insanely poor water quality in Flint, Michigan?), healthcare etc.
大體來(lái)說(shuō)是的，但不確定是否必須是100萬(wàn)。
我不理解的是，安置難民的錢(qián)是從哪里來(lái)的？現(xiàn)在一些國(guó)家向?yàn)蹩颂m提供了不少錢(qián)，他們又不是把錢(qián)存在銀行里。如果他們有那么多錢(qián)，難道不能用來(lái)解決在國(guó)內(nèi)面臨的其他問(wèn)題嗎？比如在美國(guó)，包括基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施（還記得密歇根州弗林特極其糟糕的水質(zhì)嗎？），醫(yī)療等。
Basically, in the west we are bombarded with people saying diversity is our strength and it helps grow the countries economy. If you complain about mass immigration however, the narrative quickly changes to how we deserve it for are forefathers colonising sins lol.
在西方，人們鋪天蓋地的說(shuō)多樣性是我們的優(yōu)勢(shì)，它有助于發(fā)展國(guó)家經(jīng)濟(jì)。如果你抱怨大規(guī)模移民，敘事很快就會(huì)變，變成因?yàn)樽嫦鹊闹趁褡锬跏沟梦覀兓钤摚?/b>
Maybe Japan thinks it more sensible to accept numbers which won't spark domestic backlash.
也許日本認(rèn)為，接受不會(huì)引發(fā)國(guó)內(nèi)抵制的數(shù)量更明智。
It’s 74 more than they’re obligated to take in.
這比他們接納的義務(wù)多了74個(gè)。
Maybe Japan could start a GoFundMe where all these non-Japanese people indignant that Japan isn't accepting refugees could kick in the money to resettle and support the refugees. Then Japan would have no excuse. Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
也許日本可以辦一個(gè)眾籌平臺(tái)，讓所有對(duì)日本不接收難民感到憤怒的非日本人投入資金安置和支持難民。這樣日本就沒(méi)有借口了。我敢打賭那些人會(huì)為此出很多錢(qián)。
If the new American/European way of life wasn’t “get everything for free from mommy government “ I might agree. It’s not fair if they have to pay for it
如果美國(guó)、歐洲的新生活方式不是“從政府?huà)寢屇睦锩赓M(fèi)獲得一切”， 我可能會(huì)同意。如果他們必須為此出錢(qián)，這是不公平的。
Yes, it's much easier when they're being generous with somebody else's money.
是的，如果是慷他人之慨，這就容易多了。
I'm sure you like roads.
我確定你喜歡公路。
Roads aren’t free, they’re paid for through taxes. Pretty high ones at that.
公路不是免費(fèi)的，它們通過(guò)稅收來(lái)支付，還很高。
Same for foreign aid.
對(duì)外援助也是一樣啊
So building roads for the use of taxpayers, which is the proper use of tax funds = using tax funds to send overseas to others who the country has no obligation towards and who do not contribute to the community?
So if you use your money to renovate your kitchen, are you going to send money to the guy down the street so they can fix up their own kitchen?
建設(shè)公路來(lái)給納稅人使用，是合理使用稅金，而用稅金送給其它國(guó)家、送給沒(méi)有義務(wù)和對(duì)社區(qū)沒(méi)有貢獻(xiàn)的其他人？
如果你打算用你的錢(qián)來(lái)裝修廚房，你會(huì)把錢(qián)送給接上的人，讓他去裝修他們自己的廚房嗎？
Why, I bet those people would contribute millions and millions of their own dollars toward this!
People do exactly that when they vote for politicians that are in favor of foreign aid programs, as opposed to more isolationist parties that believe their country comes first above all others.
“我敢打賭那些人會(huì)為此出很多錢(qián)”
當(dāng)人們投票給那些支持對(duì)外援助項(xiàng)目的政客時(shí)，他們就是這么做的，而不是投給那些認(rèn)為自己的國(guó)家高于其它國(guó)家的孤立主義政黨。
Another point missed by you....
I'm talking about all the people here who neither vote in Japanese elections nor pay a single yen in Japanese taxes yet still think they have a say in how Japanese tax money is spent.
你又錯(cuò)了一點(diǎn)，我們這里說(shuō)的人，他們既沒(méi)有在日本選舉中投票，也沒(méi)有繳納一日元的稅，但他們?nèi)匀徽J(rèn)為對(duì)日本稅款的使用有發(fā)言權(quán)。
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Japan also had 1.73 million foreign workers in 2021 which is almost double compared to a decade ago. If the low birthrates continue then 4 million are needed by 2040.
2021年，日本也有173萬(wàn)外國(guó)工人，幾乎是十年前的兩倍。如果低出生率持續(xù)下去，那么到2040年，他們需要400萬(wàn)外國(guó)工人。
Switzerland has over 2 million foreign workers, even though it's massively smaller than Japan. That's 25% of Switzerland's population. And that's on top of Switzerland having a much higher naturalization rate.
So not sure what your point here is.
瑞士有超過(guò)200萬(wàn)外國(guó)工人，它還比日本小得多。這是瑞士人口的25%。而且日本的入籍率比瑞士高得多。
我不確定你要表達(dá)的意思是什么。
What has foreign workers got to do with refugees?
外國(guó)工人和難民有什么關(guān)系？
They jockey against each other for the limited number of chairs at the Immigration office.
他們?cè)谝泼窬譅?zhēng)奪有限的名額。
Sometimes it is less insulting to stick to a zero refugee policy that is historically applied, rather than to announce such a ridiculous number that is in total bad faith.
有時(shí)，堅(jiān)持一直以來(lái)實(shí)行的零難民政策，比宣布這樣一個(gè)完全不誠(chéng)實(shí)的荒謬數(shù)量的侮辱性更小。
They cherrypick people with high degrees which is why the number is that low. Those are more likely to integrate and contribute to society.
他們挑選高學(xué)歷的人，這就是數(shù)量這么少的原因。這些人更有可能融入社會(huì)并做出貢獻(xiàn)。
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As the Japanese pat themselves on the back for being one of the worst G20 countries possibly even the worsr in the entire fucken world.
日本是最糟糕的G20國(guó)家之一，甚至可能是世界上最糟糕的國(guó)家之一，而日本人卻沾沾自喜。
Why are they so bad, genuinely curiouse
為什么他們這么糟糕，我很好奇
Mostly the racism. It's hard to constantly think you're superior to everyone else but also every foreigner's mere existence is a threat to your entire culture but somehow many Japanese people genuinely think that.
I've been looking to leave since watching the dumpster fire of how they treated immigration and foreigners during covid.
主要是種族主義。很難做到一直認(rèn)為自己比其他人優(yōu)秀、并認(rèn)為所有外國(guó)人的存在對(duì)自己的文化都是一種威脅，但不知為什么，許多日本人真的是這么認(rèn)為的。
自從看到他們?cè)谝咔槠陂g對(duì)待移民和外國(guó)人的方式后，我一直想離開(kāi)。
They don't want to be charity case like France and all the European countries, culture got destroyed and sky high crime rate
他們不想成為像法國(guó)和歐洲國(guó)家那樣的慈善機(jī)構(gòu)，那些國(guó)家文化被破壞，犯罪率極高。
Japan's foreign aid is huge.
They don't completely ignore other countries.
日本對(duì)外援助很多。
他們并沒(méi)有完全忽視其他國(guó)家。
You make me laugh. Canada gives more and japan is over 3 times larger. Go away.
你在逗我笑。加拿大給的更多，是日本的3倍多。滾。
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Japan's official development assistance (ODA) stood at US$16.3 billion in 2020 (current prices), making Japan the fourth-largest Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) Donor Assistance Committee (DAC) donor country in absolute terms and the largest in Asia. ODA represents 0.31% of Japan's gross national income (GNI).
Canada is the eighth-largest donor country on the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s (OECD) Development Assistance Committee (DAC). In 2020, Canada spent US$5.0 billion (current prices, according to OECD preliminary data) or 0.31% of the country’s gross national income (GNI) on official development assistance (ODA).
2020年，日本的官方發(fā)展援助（ODA）為163億美元，讓日本成為經(jīng)濟(jì)合作與發(fā)展組織（OECD）捐助援助委員會(huì)（DAC）的第四大絕對(duì)捐助國(guó)，也是亞洲最大的捐助國(guó)。ODA占日本國(guó)民總收入的0.31%。
加拿大是經(jīng)濟(jì)合作與發(fā)展組織捐助援助委員會(huì)的第八大捐助國(guó)。2020年，加拿大在官方發(fā)展援助（ODA）上花費(fèi)了50億美元，為國(guó)民總收入的0.31%。
lol. Crickets...Looks like he went away.
哈哈，看來(lái)他滾了。