三體社區(qū)討論：騰訊正在制作續(xù)集《三體2：黑暗森林》和番外篇《三體：大史》

And the four dimensional ring

（回）還有四維空間的魔戒

The whole 4D spectacle, in general. The fractal-like 2D-mapping of the 3D world is easy to visualize, but 4D? Damn, they're gonna need a boatload of both, money and creativity for that.

（回）總的來看，是所有的四維奇景。三維世界分形形態(tài)的二維映射是很容易想象的，但是四維？天吶，要想實(shí)現(xiàn)，他們會(huì)需要海量的資金和創(chuàng)造力。
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It might be 1 book/season but I also wouldn’t be too surprised if they decide to begin splitting the books up. There is a censorship rule that says no drama can be longer than 40 episodes. Some dramas get around this by splitting 1 drama into “2 parts” (for example: The Blue Whisper). Some dramas that are all 1 thing actually split into 2 parts with 2 different names (for example: One and Only and Forever and Ever). I wouldn’t be 100% surprised if they look at Dark Forest and realize it actually could just be split into 2 20 or 30 ep dramas more easily, and just make it that way. DF is more complex than Three Body Problem.

（回）這部電視劇可能會(huì)涵蓋一整本書，或是做成一季，但如果他們決定把書拆分了，我也不會(huì)太驚訝。他們那里有這么一條審查規(guī)則，即任何電視劇都不能超過40集。有些電視劇會(huì)通過把一部劇拆成“兩部分”來規(guī)避這條規(guī)則（比如《與君初相識(shí)·恰似故人歸》）。還有些劇本是一個(gè)整體，但被拆成了兩個(gè)部分，并冠上了兩個(gè)不同的名字（比如《周生如故》和《一生一世》）。如果他們檢視了《黑暗森林》，發(fā)現(xiàn)把它拆成兩部20或30集的電視劇會(huì)更容易，然后直接這樣去操作了，我也不會(huì)太驚訝。《黑暗森林》可比《三體》復(fù)雜。

ChefInternal7867
it‘s said may available in 2025

說是可能在2025年推出。
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I mean, production hasn’t even started yet. I’d be surprised if they can get it done by 2025, considering that the second book is vastly more technically complicated than the first.

（回）我想說的是，連制作都還沒有開始呢。鑒于第二本書在技術(shù)上比第一本書復(fù)雜得多，如果他們能在2025年之前完成，我會(huì)很驚訝的。
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brb, gonna hibernate for 2 years

（回）暫時(shí)離開一會(huì)兒，咱們回頭見，我準(zhǔn)備去冬眠個(gè)兩年

Dehydrate!

（回）脫水！

I want them to take as much time as they want, as long as they can bring AAA tier CG to the droplet act that we all know about

（回）只要他們能把3A級的特效應(yīng)用到大家都知道的水滴行動(dòng)中，那我希望他們想花多少時(shí)間就花多少時(shí)間。

Shit, I barely survived 2022

（回）該死，2022年我差點(diǎn)就沒挺過去。

Don't trust an entry for a future project on Douban. That "2025" can be changed any time.

（回）不要相信豆瓣上未來那個(gè)項(xiàng)目對應(yīng)的條目。那個(gè)“2025年”隨時(shí)可能更改。

ExasperatedLadybug
What's up with Mike Evans' English pronunciation?
Most of the English dialogue in the show sounds pretty awkward, like the actors don't speak English very well. That's not too surprising since most of the actors are Chinese.

邁克·伊文斯的英語發(fā)音是怎么回事？
該劇中的大部分英語對話聽起來都很別扭，好像演員們都說不好英語似的。這也不太讓人驚訝，因?yàn)榇蠖鄶?shù)演員都是中國人。
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But Mike Evans (an Australian American character) is played by Kenan Heppe (an American actor), who is apparently a native English speaker based on other videos I've seen of him.
So why is his English pronunciation so strange in the show? Is someone else doing a voice-over? Or is this pronunciation intentional to be more understandable to a Chinese audience?

但是邁克·伊文斯（一個(gè)澳大利亞裔美國人的角色）是由柯南·何裴（一個(gè)美國演員）扮演的，根據(jù)我看過的他的其他視頻，他的母語顯然是英語。
所以為什么劇中他的英語發(fā)音這么古怪？是有別人在做畫外音嗎？還是為了讓中國觀眾更容易理解，故意選用這種發(fā)音？

The actor left a comment on YouTube saying he was dubbed over by an older actor who isn't a native English speaker basically because the director thought his voice sounded too young for an older Mike Evans. His actual speaking voice was used for the young Mike Evans though

（回）這位演員在油管上留過言，他說他飾演的人物是由一位不以英語為母語的老演員配的音，基本上是因?yàn)閷?dǎo)演認(rèn)為他的嗓音聽上去太年輕，不契合老年的邁克·伊文斯。不過，青年的邁克·伊文斯用的是他真實(shí)的嗓音。

As a Bi-lingual who can speak both Chinese and English quite natively, it's hard to switch between Chinese and English smoothly while sounding native with both at the same time. Just my experience.

（回）我是一個(gè)既能說中文又能說英文的雙語人士，想要在中文和英文之間絲滑切換，同時(shí)讓人聽起來像母語，是很難的。以上只是我的經(jīng)驗(yàn)。
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Hey, Kenan Heppe (Mike Evans) here. It may be difficult to switch smoothly between languages mid-sentence on the transition word between languages, but this would not excuse an entire paragraph of the language being spoken unnaturally. Unfortunately, what you're hearing is just a dub job that prioritized a Chinese audience's reaction to the Chinese passages, and didn't really consider how foreign audiences would react to the English passages.

（回）嘿，我就是飾演邁克·伊文斯的柯南·何裴。也許很難在話到一半說到轉(zhuǎn)接詞的時(shí)候在兩種語言之間絲滑切換，但這并不能成為把一整段說得不自然的借口。不幸的是，你們所聽到的只是配音，優(yōu)先考慮的是中國觀眾對中文段落的反應(yīng)，不太會(huì)考慮外國觀眾對英文段落的反應(yīng)。

That makes sense! I noticed that you were dubbed over in some scenes, and that made it even more confusing. I figured it was down to directing focusing on the Chinese parts, as you say; my wife is from Beijing and thought the same thing.
Still, I really enjoyed the way you portrayed Evans' menacing nature through your body language and facial expressions. It made the character very enjoyable to watch despite the odd-sounding dub job. He's a bit forgettable in the book, but I think your performance elevated him to the status of a memorable antagonist.

（回）這就說得通了！我注意到你在某些場景中被別人配音了，當(dāng)時(shí)，這讓我更加困惑了。我尋思這是因?yàn)閷?dǎo)演專注于中文的部分，正如你所說的；我妻子是北京人，她也是這么想的。
不過，我還是很喜歡你用肢體語言和面部表情來刻畫伊文斯險(xiǎn)惡本質(zhì)的方式。盡管配音聽起來很奇怪，但卻使這個(gè)人物給人以非常愉悅的觀感。他在書中比較容易被忘記，但我認(rèn)為你的表演將他提升到了這樣的地位：一個(gè)讓人難忘的對手。

I found it's quite weird that Mike Evans keeps switching between English and Chinese when he talks to Ye Wenjie, it seems that Ye is capable to communicate with him in English.

（回）我發(fā)現(xiàn)麥克·伊文斯在和葉文潔交談時(shí)一直在英文和中文之間切換，還挺奇怪的，似乎葉文潔有能力用英文與他交流。

It's selfish of anyone to simply speak in their own native tongue and assume everything should be understood, especially if they have the capability of communicating in their listener's native tongue. Ye Wen Jie is Chinese, Mike Evans can speak Chinese, so it's more sophisticated, classy, and polite, to speak as much Chinese as he can. It's very blatantly undiplomatic and American to assume everyone should understand what he says in English. Also, hello, I'm Kenan (Mike Evans). :)

（回）任何人，如果他只是簡單地用自己的母語說話，并假定別人應(yīng)該聽懂他所說的一切，那就很自私了，而如果他明明有能力用聽眾的母語交流，就更是如此了。葉文潔是中國人，邁克·伊文斯會(huì)說中文，所以他盡可能多說中文，便是更成熟、更有品、更有禮貌的做法了。如果假定每個(gè)人都應(yīng)該聽懂他用英語說的話，那就是極為不得體/美國式行徑了。另外，我要向你問好，我是飾演麥克·伊文斯的柯南。

In a flashback Bai Mulin (the journalist) asks Ye whether she can read his English book, so it shouldn't be a problem.

（回）在一次閃回中，白沐霖（那記者）問過葉能不能讀懂他的英文書，所以應(yīng)該是不成問題的。

It's a Chinese TV drama so more Mandarin will make it easier to the Chinese audience. When the first met between Mike Evans and Ye Wenjie, it was clear that Mike doesn't speak Mandarin. The second time is four years later, which Mike spend his time in China and speak a higher amount of Mandarin, still not fluent. And when it's old Ye Wenjie talking to him, it's clear that he speaks fluent Mandarin already.

（回）這是一部中國電視劇，所以普通話多一些，中國觀眾會(huì)更容易看懂。當(dāng)邁克·伊文斯和葉文潔第一次見面時(shí)，很明顯當(dāng)時(shí)的邁克不會(huì)說普通話。第二次見面是四年后了，此時(shí)邁克已經(jīng)在中國待了一段時(shí)間了，他說出口的普通話也多起來了，但仍然不流利。而當(dāng)老葉文潔和他談話時(shí)，很明顯他已經(jīng)能說一口流利的普通話了。

I thought he was too young to play the older Evans. You could look through the beard. But that's more of makeup artist's mistake. They should add some ageing skin makeup.

（回）我覺得他太年輕了，是演不了老年伊文斯的。你可以透過胡須看出來。但這更像是化妝師的失誤。他們應(yīng)該上一些讓皮膚老化的妝。