盡管印度尼西亞是一個萬億美元的經(jīng)濟體，也是東南亞地區(qū)的一個大國，但為什么印度尼西亞沒有越南出名?
Why is Indonesia not as famous as Vietnam even though Indonesia is a trillion dollar economy and a regional power in Southeast Asia?
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越南出名嗎？越南比印尼更出名嗎？是自戀過頭還是夜郎自大？看越南人怎么說！
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Why is Indonesia not as famous as Vietnam even though Indonesia is a trillion dollar economy and a regional power in Southeast Asia?
盡管印度尼西亞是一個萬億美元的經(jīng)濟體，也是東南亞地區(qū)的一個大國，但為什么印度尼西亞沒有越南出名?
Vietnam is lucky geographically.Indonesia is a gigantic maritime country where you need more time to explore. Vietnam is mainland, the size is small compared to Indonesia.In September I went to Saigon and saw the distance from one to other popular cities is close relatively.
越南在地理位置上很幸運的。印度尼西亞是一個巨大的海洋國家，你需要花更多的時間去探索。越南是一個陸地國家，面積也比印度尼西亞小。
9月份我去了趟西貢，看到從一個城市到其他著名城市的距離也相對較近。
越南在地理位置上很幸運的。印度尼西亞是一個巨大的海洋國家，你需要花更多的時間去探索。越南是一個陸地國家，面積也比印度尼西亞小。
9月份我去了趟西貢，看到從一個城市到其他著名城市的距離也相對較近。
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If Vietnam is “more famous than Indonesia”, just because of its war with US. Anyway, as a Vietnamese, I don’t think Vietnam is more famous than Indonesia. Indonesia is really a “big brother” in South East Asia. I admire with what Indonesia has in the field of military industry
如果越南比印度尼西亞更出名，那只是因為它與美國之間的戰(zhàn)爭。不管怎樣說，作為一個越南人，我認為越南并不比印度尼西亞更有名。印尼真的是東南亞地區(qū)的“老大哥”。我欽佩印尼在軍事工業(yè)領(lǐng)域所取得的成就。
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Agreed, Vietnam also known as their brave people that succes kick out US, Mongol, China. Nowdays traveling to Vietnam is very famous dor Indonesian because there are many cute and unique places like winter in SEA, cafe apartment, Ghibli a like cafe. The distance is also close to Cambodia and Thailand.
同意，越南之所以被世人知道是因為他勇敢的人民，他們成功地趕走了美國、蒙古和中國。現(xiàn)如今去越南旅游比印尼更有名，因為那里有很多可愛和獨特的地方，比如東南亞的冬天，咖啡公寓，吉卜力咖啡館。越南距離柬埔寨和泰國也很近。
Vietnam is famous mostly because of the Vietnam War that USA, the number 1 superpower, heavily involved. I don’t think Indonesians want to be bombed more than World War 2 to be famous.
越南之所以出名，主要是因為美國這個頭號超級大國發(fā)動了越南戰(zhàn)爭。我認為印尼人不想因為受到了比二戰(zhàn)更多的轟炸而出名。
I think Laos is pretty unlucky in this regard. They are technically not at war with the US, yet the war dragged on to their soil, and they are the most bombarded nation in the world.
我認為老撾在這方面很不走運。從技術(shù)上講，他們并沒有和美國開戰(zhàn)，但戰(zhàn)爭還是他們的土地上進行了，他們是世界上被轟炸最多的國家。
And also with the film ‘Rambo' and many Hollywood movies regarding Vietnam War and Vietcong.還有電影《蘭博》以及許多關(guān)于越南戰(zhàn)爭和越共的好萊塢電影。
Vietnam is lucky geographically.I would not say that anyone having China as a neighbour is lucky in that way.、
越南在地理上很幸運。但我不會說任何與中國為鄰的國家在這方面是幸運的。
It is actually. Apart from the occasional SCS conflict, China is an important source of Vietnamese investment. A major factor in Vietnam's manufacturing push is the transfer of supply chains by Chinese manufacturers
實際上除了偶爾在南海區(qū)域有些沖突，中國是越南的重要投資來源。中國制造商的供應(yīng)鏈轉(zhuǎn)移是越南推動制造業(yè)發(fā)展的一個主要因素。
It took me 1.5 hour flight to reach Phu Quoc island by airplane from Saigon and after that 30 minutes to the resort. 3 years ago I went to Gili Trawangan Island: 2 hours flight from Jakarta to Lombok new airport, located in the Southern part of Lombok Island, followed by 2 hours by taxi to Bangsai and eventually 40 minutes by speedboat to Gili Trawangan. I do not include the waiting time.I wish I can go to the worlds hidden divers paradise Raja Ampat, but the access is increadibly difficult!
我花了一個半小時從西貢乘飛機到富國島，然后再花30分鐘到度假勝地。三年前，我去了印尼的吉麗島:從雅加達乘飛機2小時到龍目島南部的龍目新機場，然后乘2小時分的出租車到邦賽，最后乘快艇40分鐘到吉麗島。我并沒有算上等待時間。我希望我能去世界隱藏的潛水天堂拉賈安帕特群島，但想要去到那里非常地困難!
It is also the dream of many Indonesians to reach Raja Ampat if they have a lot of money and time, even locals, going to Raja Ampat needs much effort. Hope one day you can go there
如果有足夠的錢和時間，到達拉賈安帕群島也是許多印尼人的夢想，即使是當(dāng)?shù)厝?，去拉賈安帕群島也需要付出很多努力。希望有一天你能夢想成真！
Why is Vietnam “more famous” ? Just guessing, but maybe it is because Vietnam kicked America’s ass in a 10-year war that was on the daily television news?
為什么越南“更出名”?我猜也許是因為越南在一場長達10年的戰(zhàn)爭中打敗了美國，而這場戰(zhàn)爭現(xiàn)在還經(jīng)常在電視新聞上播出?
Agree, it’s the war……the same way makes Afghanistan is better known from Tajikistan or Uzbekistan..
同意，就是戰(zhàn)爭（讓這些國家更出名）......同樣的方式使阿富汗比塔吉克斯坦或烏茲別克斯坦更出名…
No, I think Indonesia is more famous as it just hold the very succed G20 Summit last year and this year Indonesia is the president of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations ( ASEAN). Indonesia President also is the first world leader who visited Moskwa and Kiev try to end the war and at least to secure the grain supply.
不，我認為印尼更出名，因為它去年成功舉辦了20國集團峰會，今年印尼是東南亞國家聯(lián)盟(東盟)的主席國。印尼總統(tǒng)也是第一位訪問莫斯科和基輔，試圖結(jié)束俄烏戰(zhàn)爭的世界領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人，同時他還努力確保糧食供應(yīng)充足。
True, I never heard anything from this stan nations except war in afghanistan lol
沒錯，除了阿富汗戰(zhàn)爭，我從來沒有聽到過這些個斯坦國家的任何消息，哈哈！
I think this point of view just for people who follow the latest political news and world news, but a lot of people just don’t care about that. Vietnam is well known in all over the world, every children in school read history about their war with America, you play a game of modern war, they also pop up
我認為這種觀點只適用于那些關(guān)注最新政治新聞和世界新聞的人，但很多人并不關(guān)心這些。越南在全世界范圍內(nèi)都很有名，學(xué)校里的每個孩子都讀過越南與美國的戰(zhàn)爭歷史，你玩現(xiàn)代戰(zhàn)爭游戲，他們也會冷不丁地冒出來。
Famous? If you mean well known for foreigneirs, i can say Vietnam more famous than Indonesia because of Vietnam War with America.. When people think about south asia, Vietnam will pop up. I am personally love to read and play a game about world war, so Vietnam are so familliar to me
著名嗎?如果你的意思是外國人知曉這個國家這方面，我可以說越南比印度尼西亞更出名，原因是越南與美國的戰(zhàn)爭。當(dāng)人們想到南亞時，越南就會蹦出來。我個人非常喜歡閱讀和玩關(guān)于世界大戰(zhàn)的游戲，所以越南對我來說很熟悉。
It doesnt affect your main point, however even an overnight bus takes much more than 5 hrs to get to Sapa. Daytime, I cant imagine how much longer! Source - me (travelling & living in Vietnam)
這并不影響你的主要觀點，但是即使是夜晚的巴士也要花5個多小時才能到達薩帕。白天的話，我無法想象還需要多久!來源-我在越南旅行和生活。
I don’t think a Muslim countries can achieve much high success in economy development. Now all advanced countries are all Protestant with less religions influence or Secular in majorities.
我認為一個穆斯林國家不會在經(jīng)濟發(fā)展方面取得很大的成功?，F(xiàn)在所有發(fā)達國家他們都是受宗教影響較小的新教徒，而且大多數(shù)人都是世俗的。
I’m not agree, Qatar and Malaysia show us they can succeed. By the way, Indonesia is not a muslim country, it’s a secular country where protestan, catholic, Confucianism, sikh, Hindu, and even local beliefs live in.
我不同意，卡塔爾和馬來西亞向告訴我們他們可以成功。順便說一句，印度尼西亞不是一個穆斯林國家，它是一個世俗國家，新教、天主教、儒教、錫克教、印度教，甚至還包括當(dāng)?shù)氐囊恍┳诮绦叛龆肌?/b>
No, that's not the case. Just look at Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They're one of the most wealthy nation on earth. Furthermore, Indonesia is not an islamic country, it's muslim majority country. Indonesia didn't implement sharia law
不，不是這樣的。看看沙特阿拉伯和卡塔爾就知道了。他們是世界上最富有的國家之一。此外，印度尼西亞不是一個伊斯蘭國家，它是一個穆斯林占多數(shù)的國家。印尼沒有實施伊斯蘭教法。
“Vietnam is lucky geographically”… world superpowers have invaded and controlled but all were eventually defeated. So I’m not sure what you mean by Vietnam is lucky geographically. If Vietnam had not defeated the Mongol, Chinese, French, Khmer Rouge Regime, American including its allies (Canada, AU, S Korea,Thai, Philippines) ….I doubt the world would look at Vietnam as warriors. You can say Vietnam is famous for its rich history and defending its sovereignty against world superpowers for thousands of yearS
“從地理角度看越南是幸運的”，世界超級大國的入侵和控制，最終都失敗了。所以我不確定你說的“從地理角度看越南是幸運的”是什么意思。如果越南沒有打敗蒙古、中國、法國、紅色高棉政權(quán)、美國及其盟友(加拿大、非盟、韓國、泰國、菲律賓)，那會怎么樣呢？.我懷疑世界會把越南視為戰(zhàn)士。你可以說越南以其豐富的歷史和數(shù)千年來對抗世界超級大國維護主權(quán)、捍衛(wèi)領(lǐng)土而聞名。
I also agree that it Vietnamese are brave and so many historical places to explore. I gave my perspective as Indonesian where nowadays Vietnam is popular as a tourist destination because for us to travel around the country is close relative compared to our own country where every place feels far away
我也贊同關(guān)于越南人很勇敢的觀點，越南有很多歷史景點值得探索。作為印度尼西亞人，我給出了我的觀點，因為對我們來說現(xiàn)在越南是一個很受歡迎的旅游目的地，在越南國內(nèi)旅行各地點是很近的，而在我們國家，每個地方都感覺很遠。
Is traveling within Indonesia that expensive? I would love to explore Sulawesi Borneo and Papua but $400 flight oh boy I've to plan only Jakarta, Bali and Thailand sadly.
在印尼境內(nèi)旅行有那么貴嗎?我很想去探索蘇拉威西島、婆羅洲和巴布亞島，但是400美元的機票啊，伙計！我只能計劃去雅加達、巴厘島和泰國轉(zhuǎn)轉(zhuǎn)了。
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Mostly International Airport from abroad arrived in Jakarta. That's why you just need to explore cities around Java to make it cheaper. Bandung, Jogjakarta will be efficient to travel from Jakarta. Except if you straightly arrived in Makassar from abroad, you can travel around Sulawesi, if you arrived in Balikpapan Airport, then you can travel around East Kalimantan. Another option is your flight straightly arrived in Denpasar, so you can travel around Bali and even Lombok.
大部分國際航班都會抵達雅加達，這就是為什么你只需要探索爪哇周圍的城市，這樣會更便宜。從雅加達到萬隆很便利和高效的。除非你從國外直接抵達望加錫，你可以在蘇拉威西島旅行，如果你抵達巴厘巴班機場，你可以在東加里曼丹旅行。另一個選擇是你的航班直接到達登巴薩，這樣你就可以環(huán)游巴厘島，甚至龍目島了。
dude, if you want to visit some colder area from Jakarta you can easily go to Bandung Area (Lembang or Pengalengan) why you choose the difficult option to go to Toraja? even the most popular city in Indonesia is Bali which is only 2 hour by airplane.
伙計，如果你想從雅加達去一些更涼快的地區(qū)，你可以很容易地去萬隆地區(qū)(倫邦或西爪哇地區(qū))，為什么你要選擇去托拉賈呢?即使印尼最受歡迎的城市巴厘島，坐飛機也只需要2小時而已。
very fair comment, thank you!
非常公正的評論，謝謝!