與美國出生的華人相比，在日本出生的華人相對更容易融入當(dāng)?shù)厣鐣?/h1>
Interesting observations on Japan born Chinese experiences compared to ABCs (Western born Chinese)
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總體而言，盡管存在日本人有多么討厭中國人的刻板印象，但日本出生的華人比美國出生的華人更容易被他們所在的國家接受。
正文翻譯
This is perhaps something that many people do not know about, but Japan has some domestic raised Chinese (albeit less in numbers than in the West). For the sake of simplicity, let's refer to them as JBCs.
這也許是很多人不知道的事情，但在日本有一些在其國內(nèi)長大的華人（盡管數(shù)量比在西方的少）。為了簡單起見，我們將它們稱為日本出生的華人（JBC）。
I have talked to many JBCs and their parents and I have come to the conclusion that despite Japan being an obxtively insular country who hates Chinese people, JBCs are much better integrated and socially accepted. Here are some trends that I'm observing with JBCs compared to ABCs.
我與許多日本出生的華人及其父母交談過，我得出的結(jié)論是，盡管日本客觀上是一個厭惡中國人的島國，但日本出生的華人的融入程度和社會接受度要高得多。以下是我觀察到的日本出生的華人與美國出生的華人相比的一些趨勢。
我與許多日本出生的華人及其父母交談過，我得出的結(jié)論是，盡管日本客觀上是一個厭惡中國人的島國，但日本出生的華人的融入程度和社會接受度要高得多。以下是我觀察到的日本出生的華人與美國出生的華人相比的一些趨勢。
1) Japan born Chinese usually experience full social integration. Most JBCs are accepted by their peers and on average have more friends than ABCs. I was a bit surprised since I expected Japanese kids to be racist towards JBCs, but the reality is that the vast majority literally do not care and treat JBCs the same as how they treat other Japanese kids.
1）日本出生的華人通常會經(jīng)歷充分的社會融合。大多數(shù)日本出生的華人都受到同齡人的接受，并且平均比美國出生的華人擁有更多的朋友。我有點(diǎn)驚訝，因?yàn)槲翌A(yù)計(jì)日本孩子會對日本出生的華人持種族主義態(tài)度，但現(xiàn)實(shí)是絕大多數(shù)人根本不在乎這個，他們對待日本出生的華人就跟對待其他日本孩子一樣。
1）日本出生的華人通常會經(jīng)歷充分的社會融合。大多數(shù)日本出生的華人都受到同齡人的接受，并且平均比美國出生的華人擁有更多的朋友。我有點(diǎn)驚訝，因?yàn)槲翌A(yù)計(jì)日本孩子會對日本出生的華人持種族主義態(tài)度，但現(xiàn)實(shí)是絕大多數(shù)人根本不在乎這個，他們對待日本出生的華人就跟對待其他日本孩子一樣。
Meanwhile, ABC kids in the West especially ABC males face a lot of passive aggressive behaviours and micro aggression which makes it harder for them to befriend white kids. I would argue that ABCs in the West occupy a similar social position to Jewish Europeans in 1930s Europe; they are a fringe population that is undeniably "othered" by the bulk populace including "anti-racist" White people, which contributes to why ABCs oftentimes just have other ABC friends unlike JBCs, who seem fully integrated and many even state that they have never experienced bullying for being "Chinese".
與此同時，西方的美國出生的華人孩子，尤其是美國出生的華人男孩，面對著許多被動攻擊行為和微暴力，這使得他們更難與白人孩子交朋友。我認(rèn)為在西方的美國出生的華人與20世紀(jì)30年代歐洲的猶太歐洲人有著相似的社會地位。他們是邊緣人群，無可否認(rèn)地受到包括“反種族主義”白人在內(nèi)的廣大民眾的“排斥”，這就是為什么美國出生的華人經(jīng)常只有其他美國出生的華人朋友，與日本出生的華人不同，他們?nèi)毡境錾娜A人似乎完全融入社會，許多人甚至聲稱他們從未因身為“華人”而遭受欺凌。
與此同時，西方的美國出生的華人孩子，尤其是美國出生的華人男孩，面對著許多被動攻擊行為和微暴力，這使得他們更難與白人孩子交朋友。我認(rèn)為在西方的美國出生的華人與20世紀(jì)30年代歐洲的猶太歐洲人有著相似的社會地位。他們是邊緣人群，無可否認(rèn)地受到包括“反種族主義”白人在內(nèi)的廣大民眾的“排斥”，這就是為什么美國出生的華人經(jīng)常只有其他美國出生的華人朋友，與日本出生的華人不同，他們?nèi)毡境錾娜A人似乎完全融入社會，許多人甚至聲稱他們從未因身為“華人”而遭受欺凌。
2) JBCs (for male) differ significantly to ABC males in terms of dating experiences and self esteem. Most JBC males report having some amount of Japanese girls overtly liking them/confessing to them/giving them gifts as early as elementary school. Even below average looking males usually have at least one girl who shows interest in them during their childhood/adolescence.
2) 日本出生的華人（男性）在約會經(jīng)歷和自尊方面與美國出生的華人男性顯著不同。大多數(shù)日本出生的華人男性報告說，早在小學(xué)時就有一些日本女孩公開喜歡他們/向他們表白/給他們禮物。即使是長相低于平均水平的男性，通常也至少有一個在童年/青春期對他們表現(xiàn)出興趣的女孩。
2) 日本出生的華人（男性）在約會經(jīng)歷和自尊方面與美國出生的華人男性顯著不同。大多數(shù)日本出生的華人男性報告說，早在小學(xué)時就有一些日本女孩公開喜歡他們/向他們表白/給他們禮物。即使是長相低于平均水平的男性，通常也至少有一個在童年/青春期對他們表現(xiàn)出興趣的女孩。
However, this is a foreign concept to many ABC males raised in the West, who frequently report no girls showing overt interest in them, especially in white areas. This applies even if they are above average looking, not to mention they rarely receive compliments. Over time, the lack of validation from women negatively impact how an ABC male perceives himself, leading to low self esteem. Meanwhile, JBCs are frequently extroverted with high self esteem and most perceive themselves as good looking.
然而，對于許多在西方長大的美國出生的華人男性來說，這是一個陌生的概念，他們經(jīng)常報告說沒有女孩對他們表現(xiàn)出明顯的興趣，尤其是在白人地區(qū)。即使他們的相貌高于平均水平，更不用說他們很少受到贊美了。隨著時間的推移，缺乏女性的認(rèn)可會對美國出生的華人男性的自我認(rèn)知產(chǎn)生負(fù)面影響，從而導(dǎo)致自卑。與此同時，日本出生的華人型人往往性格外向，自尊心強(qiáng)，大多數(shù)人認(rèn)為自己長得很好看。
然而，對于許多在西方長大的美國出生的華人男性來說，這是一個陌生的概念，他們經(jīng)常報告說沒有女孩對他們表現(xiàn)出明顯的興趣，尤其是在白人地區(qū)。即使他們的相貌高于平均水平，更不用說他們很少受到贊美了。隨著時間的推移，缺乏女性的認(rèn)可會對美國出生的華人男性的自我認(rèn)知產(chǎn)生負(fù)面影響，從而導(dǎo)致自卑。與此同時，日本出生的華人型人往往性格外向，自尊心強(qiáng)，大多數(shù)人認(rèn)為自己長得很好看。
3) JBCs are frequently very athletic. This surprised me at first, but apparently JBCs make up a large proportion of Japanese athletes especially in sports such as basketball and volleyball. Famous JBC athletes include Haku Ri, Yuto Kawashima, Tomokazu Harimoto and many more. I suspect this is mostly due to racism. In the West, ABC kids are frequently told by their non-Asian peers that Asians are unathletic. This results in stereotype threat where ABC kids and their parents end up internalizing these racist beliefs, thus discouraging them from sports and affirming this racist stereotype even more. Meanwhile, JBCs do not have this barrier at all and most are encouraged to be athletic.
3) 日本出生的華人通常非常擅長運(yùn)動。起初這讓我感到驚訝，但顯然日本出生的華人在日本運(yùn)動員中占很大比例，尤其是在籃球和排球等運(yùn)動領(lǐng)域。著名的日本出生的華人運(yùn)動員包括李博、川島悠翔、張本智和等。我懷疑這主要是由于種族主義。在西方，美國出生的華人孩子們經(jīng)常被非亞裔同齡人告知，亞裔不擅長運(yùn)動。這導(dǎo)致了刻板印象威脅（一個人會擔(dān)憂或焦慮自己的行為，將會驗(yàn)證那些對于自己所屬社會群體的負(fù)面刻板印象，而這種焦慮使得他的表現(xiàn)變差），美國出生的華人孩子和他們的父母最終將這些種族主義信仰內(nèi)化，從而阻止他們參加體育運(yùn)動，并進(jìn)一步肯定這種種族主義刻板印象。與此同時，日本出生的華人根本不存在這種障礙，并且大多數(shù)人都被鼓勵參加體育運(yùn)動。
3) 日本出生的華人通常非常擅長運(yùn)動。起初這讓我感到驚訝，但顯然日本出生的華人在日本運(yùn)動員中占很大比例，尤其是在籃球和排球等運(yùn)動領(lǐng)域。著名的日本出生的華人運(yùn)動員包括李博、川島悠翔、張本智和等。我懷疑這主要是由于種族主義。在西方，美國出生的華人孩子們經(jīng)常被非亞裔同齡人告知，亞裔不擅長運(yùn)動。這導(dǎo)致了刻板印象威脅（一個人會擔(dān)憂或焦慮自己的行為，將會驗(yàn)證那些對于自己所屬社會群體的負(fù)面刻板印象，而這種焦慮使得他的表現(xiàn)變差），美國出生的華人孩子和他們的父母最終將這些種族主義信仰內(nèi)化，從而阻止他們參加體育運(yùn)動，并進(jìn)一步肯定這種種族主義刻板印象。與此同時，日本出生的華人根本不存在這種障礙，并且大多數(shù)人都被鼓勵參加體育運(yùn)動。
Overall, despite the stereotype of how much the Japanese people hate the Chinese, JBCs are much more likely to become accepted by their country than ABCs.
總體而言，盡管存在日本人有多么討厭中國人的刻板印象，但日本出生的華人比美國出生的華人更容易被他們所在的國家接受。
總體而言，盡管存在日本人有多么討厭中國人的刻板印象，但日本出生的華人比美國出生的華人更容易被他們所在的國家接受。
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Just look at Season 4 of the Bachelor in Japan. The bachelor is a super successful Chinese dude that made it to the top level of media and eventually married a Japanese actress.
I've lived in Japan. I think the biggest differentiator is that the Chinese born here grow up effectively bilingual and can blend in very well. Japanese would not be able to differentiate if you speak natively given East Asians look similar. They also are also willing to tolerate Japanese work culture and many work for big Japanese companies compared to the regular foreigners you think of living here.
From a people to people level, Chinese have been living in Japan forever so I don't think the animosity is super deep. Sure there's plenty of ignorance but like most things if you can communicate effectively, many issues go away.
只需看一看日本《單身漢》第四季（真人秀約會游戲節(jié)目）。這位單身漢是一位極其成功的華人，他在媒體界達(dá)到了最高水平，并最終與一位日本女演員結(jié)婚。
我曾經(jīng)在日本生活過。我認(rèn)為最大的區(qū)別在于在這里出生的華人在雙語環(huán)境中長大，能夠很好地融入。如果你說母語，日本人是無法區(qū)分的，因?yàn)闁|亞人看起來很相似。與你在這里想到的普通外國人相比，他們也更愿意容忍日本的工作文化，并且許多人在大型日本公司工作。
從人與人之間的層面來看，華人在日本已經(jīng)生活了很長時間，所以我認(rèn)為敵意并不十分深刻。當(dāng)然會有很多無知，但像大多數(shù)事情一樣，如果你能有效地溝通，許多問題就會消失。
I'm a European born half Chinese, half carribean, parents born in South America. To white people they just see Asian. I live in Japan now, so I'm not JBC but I am Chinese living in Japan.
Some of your post is a bit redundant, like JBCs integrating more than ABCs.
Let's compare it to say, a German born in the UK or something. At the end of the day, their ethnicity is practically the same.
East Chinese, Korean, Japanese, while there are some differences their ethnicity isn't wholly different. I truly don't believe people can tell solely on face. I speak Japanese and Japanese people ask me if I'm half, I lived in Korea aswell and experienced the same. So it's not like you can just tell. These JBCs, with Japanse names, wouldn't be seen as any different unless they explicitly said they were Chinese.
You CAN tell by culture, behavior, fashion, styling etc. I work in hospitality and I have many Korean and Chinese guests, aswell as Japanese obviously. These are tourists, so it's not that hard to tell. Koreans have a certain style thats so easy to pick up on, and they're usually taller too. Chinese behavior is not like Japanese. But JBCs, they wouldn't be dressing or behaving any different than Japanese because they are born here. That being said, I won't claim that I can tell 100% either. Some Koreans and Chinese speak fluent Japanese and then I can't tell for sure.
Now, what IS interesting to note about your post is that, unlike what some people might think, Japanese people are automatically racist towards Chinese or Koreans. I have personally not felt this, and I'm not larping to be Japanese. If they ask if I'm Japanese I just say 'no I'm Chinese actually' and I have not felt any issues with this. My Chinese mother was in Japan, she doesn't speak Japanese but they just speak Japanse to her anyways. The Chinese tourists from the mainland and the Chinese born in the west behave very differently too. You can easily tell which are the mainland tourists.
I'm not some self hating Chinese btw. I'm proud of my Chinese heritage and while I could sometimes pretend to be Japanese I would never do that. JBCs might be different in that too. I do know some JBK(?) and they don't even speak Korean so, they are basicly just Japanese. Some choose to call themselves Korean and some don't, to avoid potential issues.
我是一個歐洲出生的，一半中國血統(tǒng)，一半加勒比血統(tǒng)，父母出生在南美。對于白人來說，他們只能看到亞洲人。我現(xiàn)在住在日本，所以我不是日本出生的華人，但我是住在日本的華人。
你的一些觀點(diǎn)有點(diǎn)多余，比如JBC比ABC更容易融入。
我們來比較一下，比如一個在英國出生的德國人。歸根結(jié)底，他們的族裔幾乎是相同的。華人、韓國人、日本人，雖然有些差異，但他們的族裔并不是完全不同。我真的不相信人們只憑臉就能判斷。我會說日語，日本人問我是不是混血，我也曾在韓國生活過，也經(jīng)歷過同樣的情況。所以你不能憑外表就判斷。這些日本出生的華人，有著日本名字，除非他們明確表示自己是華人，否則不會被看出來有任何不同。
你可以從文化、行為、時尚、風(fēng)格等方面來判斷。我在酒店行業(yè)工作，有很多韓國和中國客人，當(dāng)然還有日本客人。這些都是游客，所以很容易分辨。韓國人有一種特定的風(fēng)格，很容易辨認(rèn)，而且他們通常也更高大。中國人的行為不像日本人。但日本出生的華人，他們的穿著或行為不會與日本人有任何不同，因?yàn)樗麄兂錾谶@里。話雖如此，我也不敢百分之百確定。有些韓國人和中國人會說流利的日語，那我就無法確定了。
現(xiàn)在，你帖子中有趣的地方是，與一些人可能認(rèn)為的不同，日本人并不會自然而然地對中國人或韓國人有種族歧視。我個人并沒有感受到這一點(diǎn)，我也不是在假扮成日本人。如果他們問我是不是日本人，我就說“不，我其實(shí)是中國人”，我也沒有感受到任何問題。我中國的母親來日本，她不會說日語，但他們總是跟她說日語。來自大陸的中國游客和在西方出生的中國人的行為也有很大不同。你很容易就能分辨出來哪些是大陸游客。
順便說一句，我并不是那種自我憎恨的中國人。我為自己的中國傳統(tǒng)感到自豪，雖然我有時可以假裝是日本人，但我永遠(yuǎn)不會這樣做。日本出生的華人可能在這方面會有所不同。我認(rèn)識一些日本出生的韓裔，他們甚至不會說韓語，所以他們基本上就是日本人。有些選擇自稱是韓裔，有些人則不這樣做，以避免潛在的問題。
Also JBCs look different to Mainland Chinese people in the face. This might be environmental I suspect. I’m noticing that their faces are longer for example compared to their Chinese parents.
另外，日本出生的華人在面部看起來與中國大陸人不同。我懷疑這可能是環(huán)境造成的。例如，我注意到他們的臉比他們的中國父母要長。
That's actually really funny to say. I've always suspected that to some extent about Asian Americans versus homeland Asians. No real evidence.
Maybe it's the air, maybe it's the different nutrition in the food. I have no idea.
說實(shí)話，這真的很有趣，我一直對亞裔美國人與本土亞洲人的差異原因在某種程度上有種懷疑。沒有真正的證據(jù)。
也許是空氣，也許是食物中不同的營養(yǎng)。我不知道。
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Funny story, there was one time I made smalltalk with a Chinese woman while traveling by plane, and she said she could tell I wasn't raised in China even before I started speaking to her. I asked if it was my clothes or mannerisms but to my surprise she said it was because I was very tanned. LOL. She said young Chinese women raised in China would never allow themselves to get that tanned.
有趣的是，有一次我在飛機(jī)上和一個中國女性閑聊，她說甚至在我開始和她說話之前，她就知道我不是在中國長大的。我問她是因?yàn)槲业拇┲€是舉止，但令我驚訝的是，她說是因?yàn)槲业钠つw曬得很黑。哈哈。她說，在中國長大的年輕中國女性絕不會允許自己曬得那么黑。
Because JBC's don't stand out in terms of looks. For the most part, they look like the majority population. Same with Koreans (although there are still some issues due to historic reasons), Taiwanese, Vietnamese etc as long as they are Japanese passing look-wise.
With Koreans, many who have changed their names to Japanese names and mainly don't talk about their ancestry are usually ok but it has changed a lot lately with the current K-Wave that's hitting worldwide and Japan specifically, younger Japanese people are more accepting of Koreans, but there are still some issues as I have stated such as many Koreans can't get Japanese citizenship despite being born there since they were in Japan before the end of WW2 and decided to stay in Japan (Zainichi Koreans) and other things which I won't go into as it's a whole huge subject in and of itself.
因?yàn)槿毡境錾娜A人在外貌上并不突出。在很大程度上，他們看起來像是主流人口。韓國人也是如此（盡管由于歷史原因仍有一些問題）、臺灣人、越南人等，只要他們在外貌上看起來像日本人就行。
對于韓裔來說，許多人已經(jīng)改了日本名字，主要不談?wù)撟约旱难y(tǒng)，通常沒問題，但隨著當(dāng)前的韓流風(fēng)潮席卷全球，特別是在日本，年輕的日本人更加接受韓國人，但仍然存在一些問題，如我所述，許多韓裔盡管在日本出生，但由于在二戰(zhàn)結(jié)束前就已在日本，并決定留在日本（在日朝鮮人），卻無法獲得日本國籍，還有其他一些問題，但這不是我要討論的，因?yàn)檫@本身就是一個龐大的話題。
Second this. It’s often difficult for Asians to often stand out as Asian but this isn’t often true in Japan also. I know that many Filipinos often have a more difficult time in Japan.
But I really need to see the numbers to see how much of what OP says it’s true. I know a lot of Chinese who integrate well here but I also live in California where there is alot of Asians. Also I know that both Chinese and Korean face alot of discrimination in Japan also, especially in the workplace and school.
同意這個。亞洲人通常很難因?yàn)閬喼奕说纳矸葑兊煤芡怀?，但在日本并不總是如此。我知道許多菲律賓人在日本往往會遇到更多困難。
但我真的需要看到數(shù)據(jù)，看看樓主說的有多少是真實(shí)的。我認(rèn)識很多在這里融入得很好的中國人，但我也住在加州，那里有很多亞洲人。而且我也知道華人和韓裔在日本也面臨著很多歧視，尤其是在職場和學(xué)校。
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Now that's very interesting because I've been reading up a lot about China born Koreans (Chosonjok). Also called Jaehan Joseonjok (?????) or Zaihan Chaoxianzu (在韓朝鮮族). And it's one of the 13 ethnic minorities recognized in China, and the largest Korean community outside Korea, after Korean Americans.
這非常有趣，因?yàn)槲伊私饬撕芏嘣谥袊錾某r族（朝鮮族）的事情。這也被稱為在韓中國朝鮮族或在韓朝鮮族（指身處、定居或移民到韓國的中國朝鮮族，韓國人對其歧視，限制其權(quán)利）。它是中國承認(rèn)的13個少數(shù)民族之一，也是韓國以外最大的朝鮮族群體，僅次于韓裔美國人。
Wouldn't "在韓朝鮮族" mean a North Korean person living in South Korea? Whereas a Chinese national with Korean ancestry would be "中國朝鮮族人民"?
Whereas a Chinese person in Japan or in Korea would be considered a foreign person/immigrant, even if they were born there, rather than being just a local who's ethnically different. That differentiation might make someone want to further assmiliate themselves to become indistinguishable from a local, hence the JBCs and JBKs who have adopted Japanese names. Whereas the acceptance of Chaoxianzu in China means they aren't discriminated and they are proud and open about their ancestry as well as stay in touch with their culture and speak Korean and keep their Korean names.
Also there are 56 ethnicities recognised in China, not 13.
“在韓朝鮮族”不是指在韓國的朝鮮人嗎？而具有朝鮮血統(tǒng)的中國國民應(yīng)該是“中國朝鮮族人民”吧？
但是，我認(rèn)為中國朝鮮族的區(qū)別是，他們根本不被視為外國人。他們在中國社會中受到了很好的接受，因?yàn)槊總€人都知道中國有朝鮮族存在（延邊市大約有200萬朝鮮族，那是官方雙語城市），因此他們被視為本地的少數(shù)民族。朝鮮族與真正來自韓國的韓國人不同，他們是外國人。
而在日本或韓國的華人將被視為外國人/移民，即使他們是在那里出生的，而不僅僅是一個種族不同的當(dāng)?shù)厝?。這種差別可能使某些人希望進(jìn)一步融入，使自己與當(dāng)?shù)厝藳]有區(qū)別，因此有日本出生的華人和日本出生的韓裔采用了日本名字。而中國對朝鮮族的接受意味著他們沒有受到歧視，他們對自己的血統(tǒng)感到驕傲，并保持與自己的文化保持聯(lián)系，講朝鮮語，并保留自己的朝鮮名字。
另外，中國承認(rèn)的民族有56個，而不是13個。