@Mohan N R
Deep down, for any langauge, is the sound.
Words are sounds. Thoughts are words in sequence, in logical sequence, in a particular pattern. Sound is basic. With sound words are created, and then with words thoughts are created, and then with thoughts languages, religion and philosophy, everything. Deep down is the sound.
These Sounds are arranged in a scientific manner as mentioned above in all ancient Indian languages like Tamil, Telugu, Kannada etc which when uttered make them healthy and wealthy.
In Hindi it is arranged in a hapazard manner which when spoke, the speaker is affected materially and become poor. And hence Hindi is not made the second language in South India.
Want proof:
Close to 1969 onwards, many of our Western and Eastern regions embraced Hindi/ Urdu as official languages ignoring their mother tongues- Magadhi, Bhojpuri, Rajasthani, Bhundelkhandi, brij etc.
The proof is already in the pudding.
@Vivek Vermani
lol. North was rich when Agriculture and Labor used to fetch more money as north population is more oriented towards strength and less towards mind. South became rich once the intellectual businesses starting fetching more money as south had mind over strength. Your answer is a perfect example of “Correlation isn’t always causation”.
Look at regions that speak Hindi, Telugu, Tamil etc. (Basically, your entire map). Then look at places that speak German, French, English, dutch, swedish, danish (basically, northern and western Europe). Am I to conclude the later group of languages (German, dutch) are more scientific that make their speaker wealthy compared to all indian languages?
1 Speaking English make Hindi speaking people slaves. Want an Example, After Independance, “Hindustan Zinc” a sparkling Jewel PSU still pays off debts of a British company through dividends/ stake sale at high prices to Indians. Indian treasures have been looted by implanting Persian vibrations in inhabitants. Tata Motors still pays “retirement benefits of British workers from the profits of Indian operations”
2 Don't you agree US as one of the strongest Nation in the world?
2 你不認(rèn)為美國(guó)是世界上最強(qiáng)大的國(guó)家之一嗎?
@Deepak Menon
social media does not mean you can tout any kind of nonsense as facts .. kuch bhiiii
社交媒體并不意味著你可以把任何廢話當(dāng)作事實(shí)來(lái)宣傳……什么都行
@Mohan N R
Like?
比如?
@Venkat
Hindi speakers are also rude and uncivilized. The problem is with the language that these people are speaking. Now, they are looting my tax money.
@Eknath Sharma
LM. That reply was EPIC!!!
Hindi is garbage
哈哈哈。那個(gè)回答太棒了?。?!
印地語(yǔ)就是垃圾
@Anusha Gurumurthy
Nonsense… Hindi is spoken widely in Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra. How are they still rich? How does your logic apply to the north eastern states?
@Shinfu Wu
Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra are rich state indeed, their gdp per capita are close to tamil.
旁遮普、哈里亞納和馬哈拉施特拉確實(shí)是富裕的州,他們的人均GDP接近泰米爾納德邦。
@Mohan N R
It is sensible to observe more deeply. Read my answer again where it is mentioned that for regions where learning mother tongue is denied- I gave examples of Awadhi, Magadhi, Marawari, KuMni etc. Maharashtra is not limited to Mumbai. Ask parents of migrant parents from other states for admission of their children- Marathi is compulsary in Primary/ Secondary Schools.
Our side of United Punjab (three states) are rich while Pakistan side of Punjab is poor due to imposition of Urdu. Same ethnics - different outcomes. On the lighter note, Tamil was second official language of Haryana for over 30 years. There were infrastructure created in schools to teach Tamil during Hon. Devilal’s time.
@Mohan N R
Message the questioners. You may find millions of questions on the same subject from North Indians on “Why South Indians do not speak Hindi?” Who are these people dictate on what we need to speak?
@Mohan N R
True. Sound (Vibrations in Pranic body) of million speakers, take them in the right direction of the entire region. Population density of Tamil region was very high three generations before which comes down, educating the entire mass, including girls in their mother tongue.
@Abhishek Sharma
Language has nothing to do with it. We are talking about modern education. State governments in southern states have done a better job in ensuring school infrastructure is available for the masses. You can notice majority of educated people in south can speak English, which is a key requirement for private globalised industry.
@Manish Sharma
Are you saying Haryana and Punjab are not North India? All poor states in North India have different problems. Chattisgarh and Jharkhand’s issues are not the same as Rajasthan.
@Freddy Jose
Try telling Haryanvi(s) and Punjabis to speak proper Hindi, you might get a similar but different response as asking a Tamilian or Kannadiga to speak in proper Hindi gets. All these groups understand and speak Hindi when necessary, but largely do not refrain from the same. While other groups will speak in Hindi and then ask others to speak the same. The problem is somewhat what OP mentioned, but has a bit more nuance.
@Manish Sharma
No you won’t. I am a Haryanvi and Punjabi. My ancestors came from Pakistan Punjab to Haryana. I grew up in Faridabad district. We speak proper Hindi and so do most cities of Haryana. Rural people speak various dialect of Haryanvi and will switch to Hindi if you cannot speak that dialect. It’s no different to any other language.
@Manish Sharma
In the next 20 years, Marwari and Bhojpuri will start to be taught in schools. They’ll be standalone languages. It won’t happen with Haryanvi because Haryana itself doesn’t have 1 dialect but multiple according to region. UP dialects consider Hindi as their mother tongue even if they speak Awadhi, Braj or Kannauji at home.
@Prathap Suraj
South languages preserved vowel in end consonant. E.g. Yoga in Sankrit/ kannada/Telugu. Yogum in Tamil/Malayalam. It's shockingly Persian, Turkish influence on other language made it as Yog; vowel suppression in end consonant.
Suppresed vowel is used when person try to exploit other person; in hindi most of the word ends with vowel suppression. There is no scope for win win. It's a boss and slave relation. Empowered vowel is used when person wants to uplift other person; in south Karnataka and costal karnataka most of the word ends with empowered vowel.
It's a win win, mutual respect and relationship between krishna and Arjuna. Look at whole Geeta; do you see any vowel suppression. It's all empowered vowel; that's the actual native language of North India I.e prakrit or sanskrit. Krishna didn't preech Geeta using mogul Hindi.
@Prathap Suraj
Corrections needed in pics: Lol North was poor since 1500 AC South was always wealthy compared to North.
圖片中需要更正:哈哈,北方自1500年起就貧窮。南方一直比北方富裕。
@Prathap Suraj
How many of you know; mejority of the nouns in Hindi is Persian. Infact word Hindi is term given by Persians. And vowel suppression in the end consonant is also due to Persian influence on language. E.g Rama in sanskrit became Ram in Urdu/Hindu. If not Persians/Moguls ruled North India for 700 massive years; there wouldn't be Hindi, instead so many languages like Prakrit, sanskrit, magadhi, etc would have still existed in North India.
@Santhosh Krishna
BS do you know what you are talking mughals where fucking ruled north india only for 100 years MAX they for most of history Mughals where isolated in delhi or afghanistan until Akbar came to power
before the mughals we had the delhi sultanate who only ruled uttar pradesh and other areas of north india at their end . Hindi has Majority prakrit words after all it is an Descendant Of KHARI BHOLI an prakrit dialect. persian only Constitutes 30% of the hindi Vocabulary MAX and an measly 15% MIN your comment is like calling persian an artificial language because it has large Amounts of Arabic vocabulary LOL
Hindi has 90% of the nouns from Persian. Hindi eliminated all native Indian languages in North India like prakrit, sanskrit, maghadi etc. Moguls (Turks/Persians/Afghanis/slave dynasty etc) ruled for significantly largest duration in 20th century of India and influenced and imposed culture and languages. One of those is Hindi.
Only remaining sanskrit speaking village in India is existing in karnataka state, shivmogha district, mattur village; only reason sanskrit got protected in that village is there is no Hindi/urdu influence in that village.
@Santhosh Krishna
english was not widely spoken in india it was due to the education policies taken by independant india which expanded the population of english speakers. what BS majority of hindi vocabulary comes from Prakrit and Other north indian dialects persian also has influence in hindi but the influence is only 30%
when Bitter LIES are mixed in history i will not remain silent all north indian Languages are Descendants of Prakrit Hindi is a Modern prakrit language with singnificant persian influence the same way french is an Romance language with a large germanic influence Maghadi ,Bhojpuri and many of the north indian languages still have Millions of speakers.
You don’t like Hindi imposition then fight no one cares changing history will not help you with anything Even Linguistics professors agree hindi has at most 30 % vocabulary borrowed from persian and an negligible amount of turkish and Arabic vocabulary simply because an language has foreign name doesn’t mean it has 90% of it’s vocabulary borrowed from said language. many Hindi words for soils and farming comes from prakrit
@Mohan N R
Yes. “Structure” plays an important role.
是的。
“結(jié)構(gòu)”扮演了重要的角色。
@Mickey Gidwani
good proof of your theory. Perhaps a better one is China, who outright reject adopting English and thusly only use it as an instrument for trade and commerce.
@Abhishek
An Indian scholar once asserted that the Chinese could not integrate into the world and thus could not successfully develop their economy because they did not speak English. This has become a famous joke.
@Nitin Singh
If the South is rich than why should not all South Indians to be promoted to General / Open Category ?? And All North Indians must be In OBC Category as they are poor.
Just a thought.
@Mohammad Wassem
Hindi is a compulsory school subject in Karnataka, Telangana, AP & in Kerala.
印地語(yǔ)在卡納塔克邦、特倫甘納邦、安得拉邦和喀拉拉邦是必修的學(xué)??颇?。
@Short Clip Movie
Hariyana per capita income more than Tamil Nadu
哈里亞納邦的人均收入高于泰米爾納德邦
@Archit Bhattacharya
This has to be the most brain dead answer I've read this week and that's saying something
這是我本周讀到的最愚蠢的回答,這還算是有點(diǎn)意義的
@Mohan N R
Thanks for your time.
感謝你的時(shí)間。
@Praveen Verma
Mukesh Ambani and Gautam adani speaks hindi most of the time.. Gujarati is more like hindi, then south Indian languages.
This reasoning is not sound.
I have another thought process. North side have been facing attacks from invaders from 1000s of years. There was always fight for survival and material accumulation. That made the culture there some what rude. And since many of their kids will die in these battles, so another cultural change was have more
kids.
Now time has changed a lot, but the old habits are not changing. And even if you try to change something, some nut cases will say, it is our tradition, and we will not allow dilution of our age old tradition. They don’t realize that the traditions were made based on circumstances, and were not sent by God. And as circumstances change, we should also evolve.
Coming to south India. Mostly south India has remained peaceful. Rarely invaders reached till there. So, they didn’t had to struggle this hard, and fighting for resources was less. This made them little bit more soft natured and accommodating. This mindset also allowed them embrace any change towards betterment.
Though there is no resistance, 20 kms out of Ahmedabad, most of Gujaratis do not speak Hindi. Within Ahmedabad, women folks shy away from Hindi. You can make your own conclusions about Kutchis and Kathiawadis.
I have another thought process. North side have been facing attacks from invaders from 1000s of years. There was always fight for survival and material accumulation. That made the culture there some what rude. And since many of their kids will die in these battles, so another cultural change was have more kids.
True. South has faced less islamic invasions- but there were damages.
Coming to south India. Mostly south India has remained peaceful. Rarely invaders reached till there.
South India was invaded at the same time in 14th century by Malik Kafur and Madurai, Sri Rangam temples were destroyed and treasures were looted. But within 48 years, Vijayanagara Empire defeated them and lasted for 300 years.
Again European (Dutch, French, Portuguese, British) invasions started in 18th century. Here also local polygars of Madurai Kingdom (without Emperors/ Kings) fought with British from 1790- 1810.
@Praveen Verma
“Though there is no resistance, 20 kms out of Ahmedabad, most of Gujaratis do not speak Hindi. Within Ahmedabad, women folks shy away from Hindi. You can make your own conclusions about Kutchis and Kathiawadis. “ — If you go by that way, the eastern UP and bihar speaks bhojpuri, bengal speaks bengali, assam speak assamese, don’t even know all eastern languages. Is Gujarati lesser like Hindi then these languages ?
I have lived in Gujarat, and understand most of things, without much difficulty. I have lived in Tamilnadu too. And can assure you, a tamil guy will not understand a word of Gujarati, based on his knowledge of Tamil.
Not only that, marathi is also more close to hindi then any of south Indian languages. They use devnagri lipi for writing, which is same as in Hindi and sanskrit.
South India was invaded at the same time in 14th century by Malik Kafur and Madurai, Sri Rangam temples were destroyed and treasures were looted — Off course, no one is untouched. But how many times. Every invaders had to cross north, to reach south. Most of them could not cross this. What about 1947 partition ? Who paid the biggest price of partition ?
Not only that, marathi is also more close to hindi then any of south Indian languages. They use devnagri lipi for writing, which is same as in Hindi and sanskrit.
scxt is alltogether different world which comes under visualization.
文字完全是一個(gè)不同的領(lǐng)域,屬于視覺范疇。
Use of Devnagari scxt is of recent times and bring bad omen to the writers. Nandnagari scxt were used in Southern languages at some point in time and discarded for its imperfect visualization.
South still follows the age old tradition of reading and writing Sanskrit in “Granthas” Every invaders had to cross north, to reach south. Most of them could not cross this. What about 1947 partition ? Who paid the biggest price of
It is not so. When Malik Kafur attacked Madurai, Malabar Sultans from West Coast who migrated from Arabia in 7th century, Egypt in 11th century, Iraq in 12th century through Sea, helped the Slave dynasty to loot and they ruled Madurai for 48 years.
During 18th century, there were many players in South making chaos- Naicker and Thevar Polygers, Marathas, Nawabs of Arcot, Nizams of Hyderabad, British, French, Portuguese and Dutch.
1947 partition is a blunder of our leaders, especially Gujaratis- nowhere in the world people migrated leaving their ancestral wealth and undergone hardships. Hyderabad annexation is from South. Price paid by North is due to Sound of their leaders.
Yes. Your observation on less hardship of Southerners is correct due to its complex landscapes and Strategy adopted by Southern rulers. Tirupati played a significant role in reshaping after 14th century.
@Kishan Pareek
Please do your research. Don't post non-sense. Poorer states are poor because their government didn't put efforts, People have potential.
@Surya
coastal area develops faster always. Nothing to do with language.
沿海地區(qū)總是發(fā)展得更快。這與語(yǔ)言無(wú)關(guān)。
@Dhruv Rathee
What the hell did I just read..? Ok I understand you hate Hindi and don't want to learn speaking it, that is fine. But at least you should have come up with a more valid argument against the language instead of this sheer dumbness of an answer.
So do you think that whatever the Southern states have achieved in the decades is due to the language they speak, and not the geographical location, the availability of natural resources, the coastal ports, the IT industries, the other industries, etc,etc. Well claps to you(^^).
(I'm gonna bookmark this answer as the most bizzarely lunatic answer I've ever encountered. This answer, may be in future, would be used in study of people who have attained heavenly imbecilment)
@Archit Bhattacharya
Hatred against North Indians is very normalized nowadays, look at the top comment here explaining how south Indians are smarter than north Indians.
@@Mohan N R
Thanks. I have just answered a question requested.
謝謝。
我只是回答了一個(gè)請(qǐng)求的問題。
Your comments are valid for questioners- You may find millions of questions on the same subject from North Indians on “Why South Indians do not speak Hindi?” Who are these people dictate on what we need to speak?
lol. North was rich when Agriculture and Labor used to fetch more money as north population is more oriented towards strength and less towards mind. South became rich once the intellectual businesses starting fetching more money as south had mind over strength. Your answer is a perfect example of “Correlation isn’t always causation”.
哈哈。北方在農(nóng)業(yè)和勞動(dòng)能賺更多錢時(shí)曾經(jīng)富裕,因?yàn)楸狈饺丝诟⒅亓α慷侵腔?。南方則在知識(shí)型業(yè)務(wù)開始賺錢后變得富裕,因?yàn)槟戏饺烁⒅刂腔鄱橇α?。你的回答是“相關(guān)性不等于因果關(guān)系”的完美例子。
True.
確實(shí)如此。
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聲音(振動(dòng))對(duì)智力有更大的影響。
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What load of crap.
這真是一堆廢話。
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看看說印地語(yǔ)、泰盧固語(yǔ)、泰米爾語(yǔ)等的地區(qū)(基本上就是你的整個(gè)地圖)。然后看看說德語(yǔ)、法語(yǔ)、英語(yǔ)、荷蘭語(yǔ)、瑞典語(yǔ)、丹麥語(yǔ)等的地方(基本上是北歐和西歐)。我是不是應(yīng)該得出結(jié)論,后者的語(yǔ)言(德語(yǔ)、荷蘭語(yǔ))比所有印度語(yǔ)言更具科學(xué)性,使其使用者更富有?
Yes.
是的。
1 說英語(yǔ)讓說印地語(yǔ)的人變成奴隸。舉個(gè)例子,獨(dú)立后,“印度鉛鋅公司”這家閃耀的國(guó)有企業(yè)仍然通過向印度人出售股份或分紅的方式償還英國(guó)公司的債務(wù)。印度的財(cái)富被通過植入資本掠奪了。塔塔汽車仍然用印度業(yè)務(wù)的利潤(rùn)支付“英國(guó)工人的退休福利”。
2 你不認(rèn)為美國(guó)是世界上最強(qiáng)大的國(guó)家之一嗎?
social media does not mean you can tout any kind of nonsense as facts .. kuch bhiiii
社交媒體并不意味著你可以把任何廢話當(dāng)作事實(shí)來(lái)宣傳……什么都行
Like?
比如?
Hindi speakers are also rude and uncivilized. The problem is with the language that these people are speaking. Now, they are looting my tax money.
說印地語(yǔ)的人也很粗魯和不文明。問題在于這些人使用的語(yǔ)言?,F(xiàn)在,他們正在掠奪我的稅款。
True. I agree with your observation.
確實(shí)如此。我同意你的觀察。
Well.! This is rude and uncivilized.
好吧!這很粗魯和不文明。
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The reality is vice-versa.
現(xiàn)實(shí)情況正好相反。
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Most crappy answer over the net
網(wǎng)絡(luò)上最糟糕的回答
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Thanks.
謝謝。
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LM. That reply was EPIC!!!
Hindi is garbage
哈哈哈。那個(gè)回答太棒了?。?!
印地語(yǔ)就是垃圾
Nonsense… Hindi is spoken widely in Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra. How are they still rich? How does your logic apply to the north eastern states?
廢話……印地語(yǔ)在旁遮普、哈里亞納和馬哈拉施特拉被廣泛使用。他們?cè)趺催€富裕?你的邏輯如何適用于東北部的各個(gè)州?
Punjab, Heayana and Maharashtra are rich state indeed, their gdp per capita are close to tamil.
旁遮普、哈里亞納和馬哈拉施特拉確實(shí)是富裕的州,他們的人均GDP接近泰米爾納德邦。
It is sensible to observe more deeply. Read my answer again where it is mentioned that for regions where learning mother tongue is denied- I gave examples of Awadhi, Magadhi, Marawari, KuMni etc. Maharashtra is not limited to Mumbai. Ask parents of migrant parents from other states for admission of their children- Marathi is compulsary in Primary/ Secondary Schools.
深刻觀察是有意義的。再讀一下我的回答,其中提到對(duì)于那些母語(yǔ)學(xué)習(xí)被禁止的地區(qū)——我舉了阿瓦德語(yǔ),瑪伽達(dá)語(yǔ),馬拉瓦利語(yǔ)等例子?,斮み_(dá)語(yǔ)不僅限于孟買。詢問來(lái)自其他州的移民家長(zhǎng)有關(guān)子女入學(xué)的情況——在小學(xué)和中學(xué)里,瑪伽達(dá)語(yǔ)是強(qiáng)制性的。
我們這一邊的聯(lián)合旁遮普(三個(gè)州)富裕,而巴基斯坦一邊的旁遮普則因?yàn)鯛柖颊Z(yǔ)的強(qiáng)制推行而貧窮。相同的民族——不同的結(jié)果。輕松一點(diǎn),泰米爾語(yǔ)曾在哈里亞納州擔(dān)任了30多年的第二官方語(yǔ)言。在德維拉爾時(shí)期,學(xué)校內(nèi)建立了教授泰米爾語(yǔ)的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施。
The United Punjab sounds interesting, is it a ordinary usage?
聯(lián)合旁遮普聽起來(lái)很有趣,這是常見用法嗎?
Yes. In 1966, the linguistic reorganisation happened in states of Himachal Pradesh, Haryana from Punjab.
是的。1966年,喜馬偕爾邦、哈里亞納的語(yǔ)言重組發(fā)生在旁遮普。
Thx.I googled and found maps of Khalistan and Tamilelam. Punjabis and Tamizh really love their culture.
謝謝。我在谷歌上找到了哈利斯坦和泰米爾拉姆的地圖。旁遮普人和泰米爾人確實(shí)非常熱愛他們的文化。
Don't waste posting falthu posts here sale. Don't compare south north east and west like that…
不要浪費(fèi)時(shí)間在這里發(fā)布無(wú)用的帖子。不要這樣比較南北東西……
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Message the questioners. You may find millions of questions on the same subject from North Indians on “Why South Indians do not speak Hindi?” Who are these people dictate on what we need to speak?
給提問者留言。你可能會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)北印度人對(duì)“為什么南印度人不講印地語(yǔ)?”有成千上萬(wàn)的問題。這些人是誰(shuí)規(guī)定我們需要說什么的?
Northern part is overpopulated. It lacks quality education policy and infrastructure. Southern states emphasis more on education.
北方人口過多。它缺乏優(yōu)質(zhì)的教育政策和基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施。南方各州更注重教育。
Punjabi speaks Punjabi.
旁遮普人說旁遮普語(yǔ)。
True. Sound (Vibrations in Pranic body) of million speakers, take them in the right direction of the entire region. Population density of Tamil region was very high three generations before which comes down, educating the entire mass, including girls in their mother tongue.
確實(shí)如此。百萬(wàn)講者的聲音(在生氣體中的振動(dòng)),將他們引導(dǎo)到整個(gè)地區(qū)的正確方向。三代之前,泰米爾地區(qū)的人口密度非常高,現(xiàn)在有所下降,整個(gè)大眾,包括女孩,都在用他們的母語(yǔ)接受教育。
Language has nothing to do with it. We are talking about modern education. State governments in southern states have done a better job in ensuring school infrastructure is available for the masses. You can notice majority of educated people in south can speak English, which is a key requirement for private globalised industry.
語(yǔ)言與此無(wú)關(guān)。我們討論的是現(xiàn)代教育。南方各州的州政府在確保學(xué)?;A(chǔ)設(shè)施可供大眾使用方面做得更好。你會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)南方大多數(shù)受過教育的人會(huì)說英語(yǔ),而這對(duì)私營(yíng)全球化行業(yè)來(lái)說是一個(gè)關(guān)鍵要求。
Are you saying Haryana and Punjab are not North India? All poor states in North India have different problems. Chattisgarh and Jharkhand’s issues are not the same as Rajasthan.
你是在說哈里亞納和旁遮普不是北印度嗎?北印度的所有貧困州都有不同的問題。恰蒂斯加爾和賈坎德的問題與拉賈斯坦不同。
Try telling Haryanvi(s) and Punjabis to speak proper Hindi, you might get a similar but different response as asking a Tamilian or Kannadiga to speak in proper Hindi gets. All these groups understand and speak Hindi when necessary, but largely do not refrain from the same. While other groups will speak in Hindi and then ask others to speak the same. The problem is somewhat what OP mentioned, but has a bit more nuance.
試著讓哈里亞納人和旁遮普人說標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的印地語(yǔ),你可能會(huì)得到類似但有所不同的回應(yīng),就像讓泰米爾人或卡納達(dá)人說標(biāo)準(zhǔn)印地語(yǔ)一樣。這些群體在必要時(shí)會(huì)理解和說印地語(yǔ),但大多數(shù)時(shí)候不愿意這樣做。而其他群體則會(huì)用印地語(yǔ)交流,然后要求其他人也這樣說。問題有點(diǎn)像原帖提到的,但有更多的細(xì)節(jié)。
No you won’t. I am a Haryanvi and Punjabi. My ancestors came from Pakistan Punjab to Haryana. I grew up in Faridabad district. We speak proper Hindi and so do most cities of Haryana. Rural people speak various dialect of Haryanvi and will switch to Hindi if you cannot speak that dialect. It’s no different to any other language.
不會(huì)的。我是哈里亞納人和旁遮普人。我的祖先從巴基斯坦旁遮普遷到哈里亞納。我在法里達(dá)巴德區(qū)長(zhǎng)大。我們說標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的印地語(yǔ),哈里亞納的大多數(shù)城市也是如此。農(nóng)村人說各種哈里亞納方言,如果你不能說這種方言,他們會(huì)切換到印地語(yǔ)。這和其他語(yǔ)言沒有什么不同。
In the next 20 years, Marwari and Bhojpuri will start to be taught in schools. They’ll be standalone languages. It won’t happen with Haryanvi because Haryana itself doesn’t have 1 dialect but multiple according to region. UP dialects consider Hindi as their mother tongue even if they speak Awadhi, Braj or Kannauji at home.
在未來(lái)20年內(nèi),馬拉瓦里語(yǔ)和博杰普里語(yǔ)將開始在學(xué)校教授。它們將成為獨(dú)立的語(yǔ)言。哈里亞納語(yǔ)不會(huì)這樣,因?yàn)楣飦喖{本身根據(jù)地區(qū)有多種方言。即使在家里說阿瓦德語(yǔ)、庫(kù)馬奧尼語(yǔ),北方邦的方言也將印地語(yǔ)視為他們的母語(yǔ)。
Freight equalisation policy played a huge role in developing south india.
運(yùn)費(fèi)均衡政策在發(fā)展南印度方面發(fā)揮了巨大作用。
Sound (Vibrations in Pranic body) of million speakers, take them in the right direction of the entire region.
百萬(wàn)使用者的聲音(在生氣體中的振動(dòng)),將他們引導(dǎo)到整個(gè)地區(qū)的正確方向。
South languages preserved vowel in end consonant. E.g. Yoga in Sankrit/ kannada/Telugu. Yogum in Tamil/Malayalam. It's shockingly Persian, Turkish influence on other language made it as Yog; vowel suppression in end consonant.
南方語(yǔ)言保留了詞尾的元音。例如,梵語(yǔ)/卡納達(dá)語(yǔ)/泰盧固語(yǔ)中的瑜伽。泰米爾語(yǔ)/馬拉雅拉姆語(yǔ)中的Yogum。令人震驚的是,波斯語(yǔ)、土耳其語(yǔ)對(duì)其他語(yǔ)言的影響使其變成了Yoga;詞尾的元音被抑制。
當(dāng)人們?cè)噲D剝削其他人時(shí),抑制的元音會(huì)被使用;在印地語(yǔ)中,大多數(shù)單詞都以元音抑制結(jié)尾。沒有雙贏的余地。這是一種老板和奴隸的關(guān)系。賦能元音則用于當(dāng)人們想要提升其他人時(shí);在南方的卡納塔克邦和沿??{塔克邦,大多數(shù)單詞以賦能元音結(jié)尾。
這是一種雙贏、相互尊重的關(guān)系,就像克里希納和阿周那之間的關(guān)系。看看《博伽梵歌》;你看到有任何元音抑制嗎?這些都是賦能元音;這才是北印度的實(shí)際母語(yǔ),即普拉克里特語(yǔ)或梵語(yǔ)。克里希納講《博伽梵歌》時(shí)沒有使用莫臥兒印地語(yǔ)。
Good point.
好點(diǎn)子。
Corrections needed in pics: Lol North was poor since 1500 AC South was always wealthy compared to North.
圖片中需要更正:哈哈,北方自1500年起就貧窮。南方一直比北方富裕。
How many of you know; mejority of the nouns in Hindi is Persian. Infact word Hindi is term given by Persians. And vowel suppression in the end consonant is also due to Persian influence on language. E.g Rama in sanskrit became Ram in Urdu/Hindu. If not Persians/Moguls ruled North India for 700 massive years; there wouldn't be Hindi, instead so many languages like Prakrit, sanskrit, magadhi, etc would have still existed in North India.
你們知道多少;印地語(yǔ)中的大多數(shù)名詞是波斯語(yǔ)的。事實(shí)上,印地語(yǔ)這個(gè)詞是波斯人給的。詞尾的元音抑制也是由于波斯語(yǔ)對(duì)語(yǔ)言的影響。例如,梵語(yǔ)中的Rama在烏爾都語(yǔ)/印地語(yǔ)中變成了Ram。如果不是波斯人/莫臥兒統(tǒng)治了北印度700多年;印地語(yǔ)將不會(huì)存在,取而代之的是許多如普拉克里特語(yǔ)、梵語(yǔ)、馬伽達(dá)語(yǔ)等語(yǔ)言將會(huì)在北印度繼續(xù)存在。
BS do you know what you are talking mughals where fucking ruled north india only for 100 years MAX they for most of history Mughals where isolated in delhi or afghanistan until Akbar came to power
廢話,你知道你在說什么嗎?莫臥兒帝國(guó)只在北印度統(tǒng)治了最多100年,大部分歷史上,莫臥兒帝國(guó)都是在德里或阿富汗孤立的,直到阿克巴爾掌權(quán)。
在莫臥兒之前,我們有德里蘇丹國(guó),他們只統(tǒng)治了北印度的烏塔爾普拉德什和其他地區(qū)。印地語(yǔ)有大部分的普拉克里特詞匯,畢竟它是古代普拉克里特方言KHARI BHOLI的后裔。波斯語(yǔ)在印地語(yǔ)詞匯中最多占30%,最少也僅有15%。你的評(píng)論就像是因?yàn)椴ㄋ拐Z(yǔ)有大量阿拉伯詞匯就稱其為人工語(yǔ)言一樣,真搞笑。
Do u atleast agree British ruled India once and you are typing in English.
你至少同意英國(guó)曾經(jīng)統(tǒng)治過印度,而你現(xiàn)在用英語(yǔ)打字吧。
兄弟,接受苦澀的真相然后捍衛(wèi)它會(huì)更好。否則你永遠(yuǎn)找不到問題的根源和解決辦法。
印地語(yǔ)有90%的名詞來(lái)自波斯語(yǔ)。印地語(yǔ)消滅了北印度的所有本土語(yǔ)言,如普拉克里特語(yǔ)、梵語(yǔ)、馬伽地語(yǔ)等。莫臥兒帝國(guó)(包括土耳其人/波斯人/阿富汗人/奴隸王朝等)在20世紀(jì)統(tǒng)治了印度很長(zhǎng)時(shí)間,影響并強(qiáng)加了文化和語(yǔ)言。其中之一就是印地語(yǔ)。
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在印度唯一一個(gè)仍在講梵語(yǔ)的村莊位于卡納塔克邦,希夫莫加區(qū),馬圖爾村;梵語(yǔ)在那個(gè)村莊得以保護(hù)的唯一原因是該村沒有印地語(yǔ)/烏爾都語(yǔ)的影響。
english was not widely spoken in india it was due to the education policies taken by independant india which expanded the population of english speakers. what BS majority of hindi vocabulary comes from Prakrit and Other north indian dialects persian also has influence in hindi but the influence is only 30%
英語(yǔ)在印度并不廣泛使用,這要?dú)w功于獨(dú)立印度采取的教育政策,這些政策擴(kuò)展了英語(yǔ)使用者的群體。什么胡扯,印地語(yǔ)的大多數(shù)詞匯來(lái)自普拉克里特語(yǔ)和其他北印度方言,波斯語(yǔ)對(duì)印地語(yǔ)的影響也有,但僅占30%。
當(dāng)歷史中混入苦澀的謊言時(shí),我不會(huì)保持沉默。所有北印度語(yǔ)言都是普拉克里特語(yǔ)的后裔,印地語(yǔ)是現(xiàn)代普拉克里特語(yǔ)的一種,有著顯著的波斯語(yǔ)影響,就像法語(yǔ)本來(lái)是一種羅曼斯語(yǔ),卻受到大量的日耳曼語(yǔ)影響一樣。馬伽地語(yǔ)、博杰普爾語(yǔ)以及許多北印度語(yǔ)言仍有數(shù)百萬(wàn)講者。
你不喜歡印地語(yǔ)的強(qiáng)制推廣,那就去爭(zhēng)取吧,沒有人關(guān)心,改變歷史對(duì)你沒有任何幫助。即使語(yǔ)言學(xué)教授也同意,印地語(yǔ)最多只有30%的詞匯來(lái)源于波斯語(yǔ),土耳其語(yǔ)和阿拉伯語(yǔ)的詞匯量微不足道。語(yǔ)言有外來(lái)名字并不意味著它有90%的詞匯來(lái)源于那種語(yǔ)言。許多印地語(yǔ)中的土壤和農(nóng)業(yè)詞匯來(lái)自普拉克里特語(yǔ)。
well I also think its because south has many different languages [although with the same base, and scxt structures]
嗯,我也認(rèn)為這是因?yàn)槟戏接泻芏嗖煌恼Z(yǔ)言 [盡管它們有相同的基礎(chǔ)和文字結(jié)構(gòu)]
Yes. “Structure” plays an important role.
是的。
“結(jié)構(gòu)”扮演了重要的角色。
good proof of your theory. Perhaps a better one is China, who outright reject adopting English and thusly only use it as an instrument for trade and commerce.
這是你理論的一個(gè)好證明。也許更好的例子是中國(guó),他們徹底拒絕采用英語(yǔ),因此僅將其作為貿(mào)易和商業(yè)的工具。
An Indian scholar once asserted that the Chinese could not integrate into the world and thus could not successfully develop their economy because they did not speak English. This has become a famous joke.
曾經(jīng)有印度學(xué)者斷言,中國(guó)人不說英語(yǔ),所以無(wú)法融入世界,從而不能成功的發(fā)展經(jīng)濟(jì)。
這都成了著名的笑話
If the South is rich than why should not all South Indians to be promoted to General / Open Category ?? And All North Indians must be In OBC Category as they are poor.
Just a thought.
如果南方富裕,那為什么所有南印度人都不能晉升為普通/開放類別?而所有北印度人都必須在OBC(其他后備類別)類別中,因?yàn)樗麄冐毟F。
僅僅是個(gè)想法。
譯注:這里涉及到印度族群識(shí)別概念
The rich states are only Gujarat and Maharashtra. They alone contribute to 22–23% national GDP.
富裕的州只有古吉拉特邦和馬哈拉施特拉邦。它們僅貢獻(xiàn)了22-23%的國(guó)家GDP。
Hindi is a compulsory school subject in Karnataka, Telangana, AP & in Kerala.
印地語(yǔ)在卡納塔克邦、特倫甘納邦、安得拉邦和喀拉拉邦是必修的學(xué)??颇?。
Hariyana per capita income more than Tamil Nadu
哈里亞納邦的人均收入高于泰米爾納德邦
This has to be the most brain dead answer I've read this week and that's saying something
這是我本周讀到的最愚蠢的回答,這還算是有點(diǎn)意義的
Thanks for your time.
感謝你的時(shí)間。
Mukesh Ambani and Gautam adani speaks hindi most of the time.. Gujarati is more like hindi, then south Indian languages.
This reasoning is not sound.
安巴尼和阿達(dá)尼大多數(shù)時(shí)間講印地語(yǔ)。
古吉拉特語(yǔ)更像印地語(yǔ),而不是南印度語(yǔ)言。
這種推理是不成立的。
kids.
我有另一種思考方式。北方長(zhǎng)期受到侵略者的攻擊,經(jīng)歷了幾千年的生存和物質(zhì)積累斗爭(zhēng)。這使得當(dāng)?shù)匚幕行┐拄?。而且,由于許多孩子會(huì)在這些戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)中死去,所以另一個(gè)文化變化就是生更多的孩子。
現(xiàn)在時(shí)局已經(jīng)發(fā)生了很大變化,但舊習(xí)慣卻沒有改變。即使你試圖改變一些東西,也會(huì)有一些人說,這是我們的傳統(tǒng),我們不會(huì)允許我們的古老傳統(tǒng)被稀釋。他們沒有意識(shí)到傳統(tǒng)是根據(jù)當(dāng)時(shí)的情況制定的,而不是上天所賜。隨著情況的變化,我們也應(yīng)該進(jìn)化。
說到南印度,大部分時(shí)間南印度保持了和平。很少有侵略者到達(dá)那里。因此,他們不需要如此艱苦地掙扎,資源爭(zhēng)奪也較少。這使他們的性格變得更為溫和和包容。這種心態(tài)也使他們更容易接受任何有益的改變。
我們可以看到兩地的結(jié)果。
Thanks for pointing out specifics.Mukesh Ambani and Gautam adani speaks hindi most of the time..
感謝你指出具體細(xì)節(jié)。
安巴尼和阿達(dá)尼大多數(shù)時(shí)間講印地語(yǔ)。
Gujarati is more like hindi, then south Indian languages.
這不是關(guān)于個(gè)人的問題——而是關(guān)于社會(huì)整體和社會(huì)包容性。
古吉拉特語(yǔ)更像印地語(yǔ),而不是南印度語(yǔ)言。
雖然沒有抵抗,但在艾哈邁達(dá)巴德20公里之外,大多數(shù)古吉拉特人不講印地語(yǔ)。在艾哈邁達(dá)巴德市內(nèi),女性通常避開印地語(yǔ)。你可以自己對(duì)庫(kù)奇人和卡提亞瓦迪人得出結(jié)論。
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我有另一種思考方式。北方長(zhǎng)期受到侵略者的攻擊,經(jīng)歷了幾千年的生存和物質(zhì)積累斗爭(zhēng)。這使得當(dāng)?shù)匚幕行┐拄?。而且,由于許多孩子會(huì)在這些戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)中死去,所以另一個(gè)文化變化就是生更多的孩子。
Coming to south India. Mostly south India has remained peaceful. Rarely invaders reached till there.
確實(shí),南方遭受的伊斯蘭入侵較少,但也有損害。
說到南印度,大部分時(shí)間南印度保持了和平。很少有侵略者到達(dá)那里。
南印度在14世紀(jì)同一時(shí)期遭到了馬利克·卡弗爾和馬杜賴的入侵,斯里蘭岡寺廟被摧毀,財(cái)寶被掠奪。但在48年內(nèi),維杰納伽爾帝國(guó)擊敗了他們,并持續(xù)了300年。
18世紀(jì),歐洲(荷蘭、法國(guó)、葡萄牙、英國(guó))的侵略又開始了。
這里,馬杜賴王國(guó)的地方諸侯(沒有皇帝/國(guó)王)從1790年到1810年與英國(guó)人作戰(zhàn)。
“Though there is no resistance, 20 kms out of Ahmedabad, most of Gujaratis do not speak Hindi. Within Ahmedabad, women folks shy away from Hindi. You can make your own conclusions about Kutchis and Kathiawadis. “ — If you go by that way, the eastern UP and bihar speaks bhojpuri, bengal speaks bengali, assam speak assamese, don’t even know all eastern languages. Is Gujarati lesser like Hindi then these languages ?
“雖然沒有抵抗,但在艾哈邁達(dá)巴德20公里之外,大多數(shù)古吉拉特人不講印地語(yǔ)。在艾哈邁達(dá)巴德市內(nèi),女性通常避開印地語(yǔ)。你可以自己對(duì)庫(kù)奇人和卡提亞瓦迪人得出結(jié)論。”——如果你這樣說,那么東部的北方邦和比哈爾講博杰普爾語(yǔ),孟加拉講孟加拉語(yǔ),阿薩姆講阿薩姆語(yǔ),甚至不知道所有東部語(yǔ)言。古吉拉特語(yǔ)是否比這些語(yǔ)言更像印地語(yǔ)?
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我曾住在古吉拉特邦,并且理解大部分事物,沒有太大困難。我也曾住在泰米爾納德邦。我可以向你保證,一個(gè)泰米爾人根據(jù)他對(duì)泰米爾語(yǔ)的了解是無(wú)法理解古吉拉特語(yǔ)的。
不僅如此,馬拉地語(yǔ)也比任何南印度語(yǔ)言更接近印地語(yǔ)。他們使用天城文(Devanagari)書寫,這與印地語(yǔ)和梵語(yǔ)相同。
南印度在14世紀(jì)同一時(shí)期被馬利克·卡弗爾馬杜賴入侵,斯里蘭岡寺廟被摧毀,財(cái)寶被掠奪——當(dāng)然,沒有人沒有受到影響。但有多少次?每個(gè)入侵者都必須經(jīng)過北方才能到達(dá)南方。他們中的大多數(shù)無(wú)法穿越這一點(diǎn)。那么1947年分裂呢?誰(shuí)為分裂付出了最大的代價(jià)?
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I appreciate your knowledge.
我欣賞你的知識(shí)。
‘不僅如此,馬拉地語(yǔ)也比任何南印度語(yǔ)言更接近印地語(yǔ)。他們使用天城文(Devanagari)書寫,這與印地語(yǔ)和梵語(yǔ)相同?!?/b>
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文字完全是一個(gè)不同的領(lǐng)域,屬于視覺范疇。
天城文的使用是最近的,并給書寫者帶來(lái)了不祥之兆。南方語(yǔ)言曾在某個(gè)時(shí)期使用過南德文,但因其不完美的視覺效果而被棄用。
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南方仍然遵循古老的傳統(tǒng),使用經(jīng)典閱讀和書寫梵語(yǔ)。
每個(gè)入侵者都必須經(jīng)過北方才能到達(dá)南方。他們中的大多數(shù)無(wú)法穿越這一點(diǎn)。那么1947年分裂呢?誰(shuí)為分裂付出了最大的代價(jià)?
事實(shí)并非如此。當(dāng)馬利克·卡弗爾攻擊馬杜賴時(shí),來(lái)自西海岸的馬拉巴爾蘇丹,他們?cè)?世紀(jì)從阿拉伯遷移,11世紀(jì)從埃及遷移,12世紀(jì)通過海洋從伊拉克遷移,幫助奴隸王朝掠奪,他們統(tǒng)治了馬杜賴48年。
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在18世紀(jì),南方有許多勢(shì)力制造混亂——奈克和德瓦爾方統(tǒng)治者、馬拉塔人、阿爾科特的納瓦布、海得拉巴的尼扎姆、英國(guó)人、法國(guó)人、葡萄牙人和荷蘭人。
1947年的分裂是我們領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人的一個(gè)重大錯(cuò)誤,特別是古吉拉特人——在世界上沒有人會(huì)在離開祖?zhèn)髫?cái)富的情況下遷移并經(jīng)歷艱辛。海得拉巴的并入來(lái)自南方。北方付出的代價(jià)是由于其領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人的聲音。
是的,你對(duì)南方人經(jīng)歷的困難較少的觀察是正確的,這得益于其復(fù)雜的地形和南方統(tǒng)治者采取的策略。提魯帕蒂在14世紀(jì)后重新塑造了局勢(shì)。
Please do your research. Don't post non-sense. Poorer states are poor because their government didn't put efforts, People have potential.
拜托,做好你的研究。不要發(fā)布無(wú)意義的內(nèi)容。貧困的州之所以貧困,是因?yàn)樗麄兊恼疀]有付出努力,人們有潛力。
Chalo, saved Mumbaikars saved from avg North vs South fight
好了,保存
孟買人被從北方與南方的爭(zhēng)斗中拯救出來(lái)
North-east was never rich.
東北部從未富裕過。
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coastal area develops faster always. Nothing to do with language.
沿海地區(qū)總是發(fā)展得更快。這與語(yǔ)言無(wú)關(guān)。
What the hell did I just read..? Ok I understand you hate Hindi and don't want to learn speaking it, that is fine. But at least you should have come up with a more valid argument against the language instead of this sheer dumbness of an answer.
我剛剛讀了什么鬼東西..? 好吧,我明白你討厭印地語(yǔ),不想學(xué)習(xí)說它,這沒問題。但至少你應(yīng)該提出一個(gè)更有效的論點(diǎn)來(lái)反對(duì)這種語(yǔ)言,而不是這樣一個(gè)完全愚蠢的回答。
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所以你認(rèn)為南方各州在幾十年里取得的成就完全是由于他們講的語(yǔ)言,而不是地理位置、自然資源的豐富、沿海港口、IT產(chǎn)業(yè)、其他產(chǎn)業(yè)等。好吧,給你鼓掌
(我要將這個(gè)回答收藏為我遇到過的最荒謬的瘋狂回答。這個(gè)回答,或許將來(lái)會(huì)被用來(lái)研究那些達(dá)到了天上愚蠢程度的人。)
Hatred against North Indians is very normalized nowadays, look at the top comment here explaining how south Indians are smarter than north Indians.
現(xiàn)在對(duì)北方人的仇恨已經(jīng)非常正?;耍纯催@里的頂級(jí)評(píng)論,解釋了南方人如何比北方人更聰明。
Thanks. I have just answered a question requested.
謝謝。
我只是回答了一個(gè)請(qǐng)求的問題。
你的評(píng)論對(duì)提問者有效——你可能會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)北方人對(duì)“為什么南方人不講印地語(yǔ)?”這個(gè)問題有數(shù)百萬(wàn)個(gè)類似的提問。
這些人是誰(shuí)來(lái)決定我們應(yīng)該說什么的?