印度一網(wǎng)友：受《黑神話》的啟發(fā)，我想組建團(tuán)隊開發(fā)一個印度神話史詩3A游戲。印度網(wǎng)民沮計萬端：絕對不可能成功

UndocumentedMartian
Mate do you know how much a AAA game costs to make? Have you ever made even a small game? You clearly have no idea how a videogame is made. Why would an investor give you any money if you have no understanding of gamedev and no history in it? How are you going to pay people at that level of skill? Why would developers, designers, animators etc work for free on something that requires the level of work of a full-time job? Think realistically.
even if it would be a fail
You want to throw millions of dollars and years or work into something you have no idea will even sell?
Maybe get a team together and make something tiny on a shoestring budget. There are free tools that can help you make some excellent games. Start small dude. Rome wasn't built in a day.

哥們，你知道制作一款 AAA 級游戲要花多少錢嗎？你做過小游戲嗎？你顯然不知道電子游戲是如何制作出來的。如果你對游戲開發(fā)一無所知，也沒有任何從業(yè)經(jīng)驗(yàn)，投資者怎么會給你錢？你這樣的技術(shù)水平怎么給人發(fā)工資？開發(fā)人員、設(shè)計師、動畫師等為什么要免費(fèi)從事需要全職工作水平的工作？實(shí)事求是地思考。
“即使會失敗”
你想投入數(shù)百萬美元和數(shù)年的時間或精力去做一個你根本不知道能不能賣出去的東西？
也許可以組建一個團(tuán)隊，用微薄的預(yù)算做一些小東西。有一些免費(fèi)工具可以幫助你制作一些優(yōu)秀的游戲。從小游戲做起吧。羅馬不是一天建成的。

RealityMX
Yes i clearly said I am a newbie and I have no shame admiting, Im surprised by the response of this thread. I am well aware its not an easy task and not a one man job thats why I said I need a team, I need people with this same dream. I am very aware of the odds but I still wish to try, Thankyou for you. And as of why investor would give me money, thats why I need a team, I need to find the logistics and I am confident in my capabilities to sell and network. I can provide political suporrt as well as I said above. But again, nonetheless i am a newbie but I still would like to try

是的，我說得很清楚，我是個新手，我毫不羞愧地承認(rèn)這一點(diǎn)。我很清楚這不是一件容易的事，也不是一個人的工作，這就是為什么我說我需要一個團(tuán)隊，我需要有同樣夢想的人。我深知機(jī)會渺茫，但我仍想嘗試，謝謝你。至于為什么投資者會給我錢，這就是為什么我需要一個團(tuán)隊，我需要找到贊助，我對自己的銷售和網(wǎng)絡(luò)能力很有信心。如上所述，我還可以提供政治支持。不過還是那句話，盡管我是個新手，但我還是想嘗試一下。

UndocumentedMartian
Dreams don't pay the bills. No amount of confidence will make up for your lack of skills or resources. Noone with any experience will buy your idea. You have no history of implementation. You have shown that you don't even know what it takes to make pong let alone a AAA game. Ideas are a dime a dozen and yours isn't new. There are posts like yours everyday from people who are completely out of touch and haven't done their homework. Just because its not manual labor with large, loud machines it doesn't mean it isn't as hard and expensive.
You saw wukong and had your mind blown but did you look into the company that built it? Gamedev is not a joke. If you're so passionate start a gamedev company and see if it lasts 2 years. Your surprise at the response shows that you're out of touch.
Start small and achieve some success before you think about AAA games in an industry as saturated as this one.

夢想不能付賬單。再多的自信也無法彌補(bǔ)你技能或資源的不足。沒有任何有經(jīng)驗(yàn)的人會買你的賬。你沒有實(shí)干的歷史。你已經(jīng)表明，你甚至不知道制作乒乓球需要什么，更不用說制作一款 AAA 級游戲了。創(chuàng)意到處都是，你的創(chuàng)意并不新鮮。每天都有像你這樣的人發(fā)帖，他們完全不了解情況，也沒有做足功課。雖然不是使用大型、高噪音機(jī)器的體力勞動，但并不意味著它就不辛苦、不昂貴。
你看到了“悟空”，覺得大開眼界，但你了解過開發(fā)“悟空”的公司嗎？游戲開發(fā)可不是鬧著玩的。如果你對游戲開發(fā)充滿熱情，那就開一家游戲開發(fā)公司，看看能不能堅持兩年。你對帖子的反響感到驚訝，說明你與時代脫節(jié)了。
先從小事做起，取得一定的成功后，再考慮在這樣一個飽和的行業(yè)中開發(fā) AAA 級游戲。

firebeaterrr
Im surprised by the response of this thread
why? i dont see anything concrete in your post other than vague ideas and generic statements.
what you've written is just how your average indian gamer feels. i bet every single one has wanted to make a successful game at one point of time.
so once again i ask, what unique ability or specialty do you bring to the table that will ensure your project is a success?
knowledge? there's people with more knowledge than you.
money? same.
networking? same.
political support? okay, maybe this might be the most useful thing you may have.
good luck anyway

“我對這個討論帖的反應(yīng)感到驚訝?！?br /> 為什么？我在你的帖子中沒有看到任何具體的內(nèi)容，只有模糊的想法和泛泛而談的陳述。
你所寫的只是普通印度玩家的感受。我敢打賭，每一個人都曾想過要制作一款成功的游戲。
所以我再次問，你有什么獨(dú)特的能力或?qū)ｉL，能確保你的項(xiàng)目成功？
知識？有比你更有知識的人。
資金？也是一樣。
人脈？同樣。
政治支持？好吧，也許這可能是你最有用的東西。
無論如何，祝你好運(yùn)。

RealityMX
Knowledge? No, the amount of hours I have put there might be a few people better than me but you wont find them walking randomly Money? Same yes Networking? Nope, I have great Networking And one thing , I realised by reading this thread, the slave work and earn mindset is so rooted in us Indians, god them you'll cant see anyone taking a different route..its always critics before advisors And if you have time to comment all this critiques Im sure you must have had time to ask me for details if u found it as general statements, like the one dude below, whom i replied properly with full fledged layout

知識？不，以我所投入的時間，可能有一些人比我更優(yōu)秀，但你不會在街上隨便遇到他們。錢？同樣如此。人脈？不，我的人脈很好。有一點(diǎn)，我通過閱讀這個帖子意識到，奴隸般地工作和賺錢至上的心態(tài)在我們印度人中根深蒂固，天哪，你們見不得有人走不同的路……總是先做一個批評家，而不是建議者。如果你有時間評論這些批評，我相信你一定有時間問我細(xì)節(jié)，如果你覺得這些只是泛泛而談的陳述，就像下面那個家伙，我已經(jīng)用完整的邏輯好好回復(fù)了他。

firebeaterrr
knowledge
a word bandied about by many whose only experience with it is its utter absence thereof.
This small-mid scale project can be a basic introduction to the Universal form of "God" in form of "Maa Bhavani" whom Shivaji worshipped. We can show her as Omnipresent energy in a very large scare. Something like Galactus of Marvel.
did you write this? is this the level of your understanding? please tell me because i really want to know whether this is the sort of "accurate knowledge about History and scxtures" that you're bringing to the table.
you have LESS than rudimentary knowledge about your own gods and you're going to make a "historically accurate" game?
bet you didnt think there would be people with ACTUAL knowledge in this thread, eh? you thought you'd just say some buzzwords and suddenly people will start throwing money your way, right?
you're just another hustler trying to earn a quick buck by playing on people's religion. im sorry, but i'm very happy this thread happened.

“知識”
這是一個被許多人津津樂道的詞，他們對這個詞的唯一體驗(yàn)就是完全不了解。
“這個中小規(guī)模的項(xiàng)目可以是對希瓦吉崇拜的‘Maa Bhavani’形式的普世形式的‘神’的基本介紹。我們可以將她作為無所不在的能量，以一種非常巨大的恐慌形式展現(xiàn)出來。就像驚奇漫畫中的‘銀河戰(zhàn)士’。”
這是你寫的嗎？這就是你的理解水平嗎？請告訴我，因?yàn)槲艺娴暮芟胫肋@是否就是你帶來的“關(guān)于歷史和經(jīng)文的準(zhǔn)確知識”。
你對你自己的神的了解連皮毛都算不上，卻要做一個“符合歷史的”游戲？
你肯定沒想到這個主題里會有真正有知識的人，對吧？你以為你只要說幾句流行語，人們就會突然開始給你扔錢，對吧？
不過我很高興出現(xiàn)了這么一個帖子。

ThePhenom744
You will need millions of dollars to reach that level of production value. No Indian game has ever been a true AAA game. Raji was a decent game by Indian standard but it was indie game

你需要數(shù)以百萬計的美元才能達(dá)到這樣的制作規(guī)模。沒有一款印度游戲能成為真正的 AAA 級游戲。按照印度的標(biāo)準(zhǔn)，《Raji》是一款不錯的游戲，但它只是一款獨(dú)立游戲。
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[dexed]
why does every Indian guy wants to make a game about indian history bruh. and what your trying to achieve will take 5+ years give or take. the smallest game I made took me 5-8 months.
If your really want to do it I would suggest you to make like a indie game a small one that's focused on one small story and see how the market react to your idea. and go from there.
please don't start the big project. I'm saving you.

為什么每個印度人都想做一款關(guān)于印度歷史的游戲？你想要實(shí)現(xiàn)的目標(biāo)需要 5 年以上的時間。
如果你真的想做，我建議你做一個獨(dú)立游戲，專注于一個小故事的小游戲，看看市場對你的想法有什么反應(yīng)。
請不要啟動大項(xiàng)目。我是在救你。

yash_64894
Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. Not every game needs to be based on ancient history, and games from India don't necessarily have to focus on historical themes. The main focus should be on making the gameplay fun

是的，我正是這么想的。不是每款游戲都需要以古代歷史為題材，印度的游戲也不一定要以歷史題材為主。主要的重點(diǎn)應(yīng)該是讓游戲好玩

RealityMX
Because why not? I beleive the market is huge for Mythology and Warrior themes. Ghost of Tsushima, God of war, Elder rings, Black Myth. You name it buddy. And I have been studying History and Mythology of all the culture since last 5-6 years. The potention Indian Mythology has is seriously unrecognized. And Pls re read my Thread. I said I want to make a AAA mythology title but Ill start with Historical non controversial small event. Obviously that is the "indie" thing.. And thankyou for your advice I wont start anything big, I am studying the logistics and the market, I will start with a small project with a USP first.

為什么不呢？我相信神話和戰(zhàn)士題材的市場是巨大的?！秾︸R之魂》、《戰(zhàn)神》、《艾爾登法環(huán)》、《黑神話》。隨便舉幾個例子。從過去 5-6 年開始，我一直在研究各種文化的歷史和神話。印度神話的潛力還未得到充分認(rèn)識。請重新閱讀我的帖子。我說過我想制作一款 AAA 級神話題材的游戲，但我會從歷史上沒有爭議的小事件開始。很明顯，這才是 “獨(dú)立”的東西。謝謝你的建議，我不會做大項(xiàng)目，我正在研究物流和市場，我會先做一個有 USP（獨(dú)特的銷售主張） 的小項(xiàng)目。

[dexed]
Ok bro I'll be honest with you. No one wants to play an indian mythology based game. your not the first one to have this idea and nothing wrong with it no doubt. its a good idea and you want to represent your roots that's a good thing.
but imma tell you right now that the game market does not want an indian mythology game. if people really wanted it, these companies would've already made it. that's the truth bro.
there are some games that are purely based on Indian mythology but no one knows the names of these games because so less people played it.
I'm not hating on you just tell the truth.

好吧，兄弟，我跟你說實(shí)話。你不是第一個有這種想法的人，毫無疑問，這沒有錯。這是個好主意，你想展現(xiàn)自己的根源，這是好事。
但我現(xiàn)在告訴你，游戲市場并不想要印度神話游戲。
有一些游戲是純粹基于印度神話的，但沒人知道這些游戲的名字，因?yàn)橥娴娜颂倭恕?br /> 我不是討厭你，只是想告訴你真相。

SadBadMad2
Not OP, but this is such a ill-researched and wannabe-know-all reply.
No one wants to play an indian mythology based game.
Who is in this 'No-one'? You, and? Guess what, Chinese mythology was also extremely neglected outside of a few mentions of 'Journey to the West' and 'Shaolin' and Black Myth Wukong changed that. Even after that, it is still not in mainstream 'zeitgeist' because it takes consistent iterations to build a base. Interest in a topic does not rise from nothingness. You have to build something to generate the interest. Why do trailers and marketing campaigns exist for movies and video games? Their sole purpose is to generate excitement and India as whole is nowhere in the mainstream gaming which creates a HUGE opportunity. This doesn't mean every upcoming game based in India or that comes out of India will be a success, BUT you have to start somewhere because these things take time. Behind every popular Norse/Greek/Roman/Egyptian mythology games, there are countless that are in grave.
if people really wanted it, these companies would've already made it. that's the truth bro.
Again, what a dumb response. Counter example - Every freakin' person that played Assassin's Creed wanted the series to be set in Japan for the longest time and it's just happening this year - 12+ years after peak AC in terms of influence. Markets do not, always, immediately run after 'trends' as it's completely based on perceived importance of a topic. Also, to create that 'trend', there has to be that topic in the discussions in the first place and India is again, nowhere seen. That doesn't mean there's no interest, but there is no baseline player pool to begin with.
there are some games that are purely based on Indian mythology but no one knows the names of these games because so less people played it.
All those games are indies with no marketing behind them except a few games like Raji. People don't play those games BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THESE GAMES ExiST. That's where the money, and player base comes in and it's going to take us a long time to reach that stage where game dev is seen as a real career instead of a fad. But, conflating this with 'no interest in Indian mythology' is extremely naive and stupid.

我不是樓主，但這真是一個缺乏研究、自以為是的回復(fù)。
“沒人想玩印度神話題材的游戲?！?br /> 這個“沒人”指的是誰？你，還有呢？你猜怎么著，除了《西游記》和《少林寺》被提及過幾次之外，中國神話也曾被極度忽視，而《黑神話悟空》改變了這一局面。即使在那之后，它仍然沒有成為主流“時代潮流”，因?yàn)樗枰掷m(xù)的迭代來建立基礎(chǔ)。對一個話題的興趣不會從無到有。你必須開始有所建樹，才能產(chǎn)生興趣。為什么電影和視頻游戲會有預(yù)告片和營銷活動？它們的唯一目的就是引起人們的興奮，而印度作為一個整體還沒有進(jìn)入主流游戲領(lǐng)域，這就創(chuàng)造了一個巨大的機(jī)會。這并不意味著每款基于印度或出自印度的游戲都會取得成功，但你必須從某個地方開始，因?yàn)檫@些事情都需要時間。在每一款流行的北歐/希臘/羅馬/埃及神話游戲背后，都有數(shù)不清的墳?zāi)埂?br /> “如果人們真的想要，這些公司早就做出來了，這就是事實(shí)，兄弟?！?br /> 又是一個愚蠢的回答。舉個反例--每一個玩過《刺客信條》的人都希望該系列能以日本為主題，這已經(jīng)是很久以前的事了，而今年才剛剛實(shí)現(xiàn)--這已經(jīng)是《刺客信條》影響力達(dá)到頂峰 12 年之后的事了。市場并不總是立即追隨“趨勢”，因?yàn)檫@完全是基于對某一主題重要性的認(rèn)知。此外，要形成“趨勢”，首先要有話題在討論中出現(xiàn)，而印度也是如此。這并不意味著沒有興趣，而是一開始就沒有玩家基礎(chǔ)。
“有一些游戲純粹基于印度神話，但沒人知道這些游戲的名字，因?yàn)橥娴娜颂倭?。?br /> 除了《Raji》等少數(shù)游戲，所有這些游戲都是沒有市場營銷的獨(dú)立游戲。人們不玩這些游戲，是因?yàn)樗麄兏静恢肋@些游戲的存在。這就是錢和玩家基礎(chǔ)的來源，我們需要很長時間才能達(dá)到這樣一個階段，即游戲開發(fā)被視為真正的職業(yè)，而不是一種時尚。但是，將這一點(diǎn)與 “對印度神話不感興趣”混為一談是極其幼稚和愚蠢的。

[dexed]
Your seriously going to counter my argument using AAA games while me and OP are talking about indie games idk how to reply to your specific sentence so I'm just gonna quote your sentence I'm new to reddit but you said
"Chinese mythology was not famous and the new monkey game changed it" which is wrong people had interest in the story of monkey king long before these games where made interest for a game does not have to come from the game. there where soo many movies, comics, animated series etc about monkey king and his story that where the things that gave people the "INTEREST" in his story. and that's the reason the new game exist. why didn't they make a game about "Genghis khan" he is pretty famous too in China because no one knows shit about him outside China.
you said we have to generate interest about indian mythology. in my whole life I've seen soo many indian mythology tv series, animated series, comics movies etc even after soo many of these things did it not generate "INTEREST" for indian mythology in indian people or people outside india.
and you said "games need marketing" which is correct I'm not denying that but marketing will only bring people to the game. if the game is stupid no one is gonna play it for example take among us that game did so little marketing and I'm sure u heard about that game from your friends not advertisement you saw on youtube.
I did say no one wants to play indian mythology I was wrong there I understand
but it is truth that people inside india or outside India don't really care about indian mythology so making a game in the category you either have to make it like the new monkey game or even better than that which tbh I don't think OP can do that.
and also your only using mainstream games which leads me to believe that you don't know a lot about how a game works and what makes people attracted towards a game just like the rest of indian gaming audience which only plays mainstream that too which is cracked
OP just got a motivation of making a AAA game which will die in like 1-2 months so don't worry bout it.

你真的要用AAA游戲來反駁我的論點(diǎn)，而我和樓主討論的是獨(dú)立游戲嗎，我不知道該如何回復(fù)你的具體句子，所以我就引用你的話。我是reddit的新手，但你說過：“中國神話并不出名，而新的孫悟空的游戲改變了這一點(diǎn)。”這句話是錯的，人們在這些游戲制作之前就對孫悟空的故事感興趣。對一款游戲的興趣不一定要來自于游戲本身。關(guān)于孫悟空和他的故事，已經(jīng)有了很多電影、漫畫、動畫等，這些才是讓人們對他的故事產(chǎn)生“興趣”的原因。這也是新游戲存在的原因。為什么他們不制作一款關(guān)于“成吉思汗”的游戲？他在中國也很有名，但在中國以外沒人對他了解多少。
你說我們必須引起人們對印度神話的興趣。在我一生中，我看過很多印度神話的電視劇、動畫系列、漫畫和電影等等，盡管有這么多這些作品，但它們并沒有在印度人或印度以外的人中產(chǎn)生對印度神話的“興趣”。
你說“游戲需要市場營銷”，這是對的，我不否認(rèn)這一點(diǎn)，但市場營銷只會把人們吸引到游戲中來。如果游戲很爛，就不會有人玩，就拿我們中間的那款游戲來說，它的市場營銷工作做得很少，我相信你是從你的朋友那里聽說這款游戲的，而不是在 youtube 上看到的廣告。
我確實(shí)說過沒有人想玩印度神話，我錯了，我明白。
但事實(shí)是，無論印度國內(nèi)還是國外，人們都不太關(guān)心印度神話，所以要制作一款印度神話類游戲，你必須把它做得和悟空一樣，甚至比它更好，但我不認(rèn)為 OP 能做到這一點(diǎn)。
還有，你只使用主流游戲，這讓我相信你并不了解游戲是如何運(yùn)作的，以及是什么讓人們被游戲所吸引，就像其他只玩主流游戲的印度游戲觀眾一樣，這也是個問題
OP 只是有了制作一款 AAA 級游戲的動機(jī)，而這款游戲在 1-2 個月內(nèi)就會夭折，所以不用擔(dān)心。

xxxfooxxx
No. Our society is very sensitive. Pick some other topic, if you pick mythology or ancient history, people will find various reasons to get offended.

不，我們的社會非常敏感。選擇一些其他的話題，如果你選擇神話或古代歷史，人們會找到各種理由被冒犯。

Pro_BG4_
AAA game if you have enough funding and facilities bro, btw do you know why developers of GOW has to cancel plans of used Indian epics mythology just because the backlash they get from making out their own story and killing gods of ancient India, instead they now chosen Egyptians mythology for next installment. So both of your ideas may not work right now.

如果你有足夠的資金和設(shè)施，你就可以開發(fā) AAA 級游戲，兄弟，你知道為什么《戰(zhàn)神》的開發(fā)商不得不取消使用印度史詩神話的計劃嗎，就因?yàn)樗麄冏跃幾詫?dǎo)自演的故事和殺害古印度諸神的行為引起了反彈，相反，他們現(xiàn)在選擇了埃及神話作為下一部作品的主題。所以，你的兩個想法現(xiàn)在都可能行不通。

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