為什么韓國(guó)人不被稱(chēng)為‘白人’，盡管他們的膚色比美國(guó)人更白？
Why aren't Koreans called 'white' when they have whiter skin than Americans?
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網(wǎng)友：眼睛可能會(huì)欺騙你。許多亞洲女性使用大量化妝品和護(hù)膚產(chǎn)品，這些產(chǎn)品很多都能使皮膚變得更白。再加上大多數(shù)東亞女性像瘟疫一樣避免陽(yáng)光，這些產(chǎn)品給人留下了錯(cuò)誤的印象。她們的皮膚有一種金色的色調(diào)，這諷刺的是，這樣反而使她們的種族膚色更加真實(shí)。白人其實(shí)并不是真正的白色，黑人則是棕色的。亞洲人則至少有點(diǎn)偏黃。
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Eyes can be deceiving. Many Asians use a lot of make up/ skin care products a lot of them make your skin lighter combine that with most East Asian women avoiding the sun like the plague and they give a wrong impression. They have a golden hue to them, which ironically makes their racial color the most accurate. White people are not really white and black people are brown. Asians are yellowish at least a bit.
眼睛可能會(huì)欺騙你。許多亞洲女性使用大量化妝品和護(hù)膚產(chǎn)品，這些產(chǎn)品很多都能使皮膚變得更白。再加上大多數(shù)東亞女性像瘟疫一樣避免陽(yáng)光，這些產(chǎn)品給人留下了錯(cuò)誤的印象。她們的皮膚有一種金色的色調(diào)，這諷刺的是，這樣反而使她們的種族膚色更加真實(shí)。白人其實(shí)并不是真正的白色，黑人則是棕色的。亞洲人則至少有點(diǎn)偏黃。
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她們對(duì)白皙皮膚的癡迷并不是出于對(duì)白種人的崇拜，而是因?yàn)榘尊钠つw與美麗和高社會(huì)地位相關(guān)聯(lián)。如果考慮到過(guò)去大多數(shù)人都必須在田野工作，只有最富有的人才能待在室內(nèi)，這種現(xiàn)象就更能理解了。
Spot on! East Asians generally have wheatish/light golden skin/light-medium skin with warm tones.
So light skin with cool/rosy undertones (which most pale Europeans have) is technically paler than light wheatish skin because rosy pale skin sunburns more easily and never tans very dark unlike wheatish/golden skin.
說(shuō)得對(duì)！東亞人通常有小麥色/淺金色的皮膚/淺中等膚色，帶有溫暖的色調(diào)。
因此，帶有冷色調(diào)/玫瑰色底色的白皙皮膚（大多數(shù)膚色蒼白的歐洲人都有這種膚色）從技術(shù)上講比淺小麥色皮膚更蒼白，因?yàn)槊倒迳n白皮膚更容易曬傷，而且不會(huì)像小麥色/金色皮膚那樣曬黑得很深。
Japanese and Koreans in general are white . Actually their skin is more fair then Europeans. Even Chinese have white skin. Just because they have asian facial features don't take away from their whiteness.
日本人和韓國(guó)人通常是白人。實(shí)際上，他們的膚色比歐洲人還要白。即使是中國(guó)人也有白皙的皮膚。僅僅因?yàn)樗麄冇衼喼薜拿娌刻卣鳎⒉荒軇儕Z他們的白人身份。
The term “white” in western countries is mostly used to refer a common ethnic origin between Indo-European groups, not necessarily used to describe someone's skintone, in that case we will use “pale” or “fair” skin.
The term has changed throughout history, during early colonial times in America, only germanic descent protestant people like English, German, Dutch, Scandinavian, etc.. were called white.
在西方國(guó)家，“白人”這個(gè)詞通常是用來(lái)指代印歐民族群體之間的共同民族起源，而不一定是用來(lái)描述某人的膚色。在這種情況下，我們會(huì)使用“蒼白”或“白皙”的膚色。
這個(gè)術(shù)語(yǔ)在歷史上發(fā)生了變化，在美國(guó)早期的殖民時(shí)期，只有德意志血統(tǒng)的新教徒，比如英國(guó)人、德國(guó)人、荷蘭人、斯堪的納維亞人等，才被稱(chēng)為白人。
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Imagine how silly that Irish being the palest skinned nation in the world were not considered white, Slavic people are also pale and once were excluded from being white.
“所以其他歐洲人也不是‘白人’。想象一下，愛(ài)爾蘭人是世界上膚色最白的民族，卻不被認(rèn)為是白人，斯拉夫人也很蒼白，曾一度被排除在白人之外，這是多么愚蠢。
逐漸地，這個(gè)詞開(kāi)始包括幾乎所有歐洲人以及一些相關(guān)的群體，比如一些中東人、北非人和一些具有歐洲血統(tǒng)的西班牙裔人。至于印度和巴基斯坦的人，基因上來(lái)說(shuō)有點(diǎn)爭(zhēng)議，他們不會(huì)被認(rèn)為是白人，但他們的主要語(yǔ)言是印歐語(yǔ)系，他們的頭骨形狀與歐洲人非常相似。
East Asians are almost as far from Indo-Europeans as Black Africans, So despite being also a light skinned group of people they are not considered “white” in a racial sense. Koreans belong to the Mongoloid group, with southern Chinese and siberian origins.
東亞人與印歐人幾乎一樣遠(yuǎn)，和黑人非洲人一樣。因此，盡管他們也是一個(gè)膚色較淺的群體，但在種族意義上并不被認(rèn)為是“白人”。韓國(guó)人屬于蒙古人種，與南方中國(guó)人和西伯利亞人有著相同的起源。
Some modern east Asians have traces of ancient Indo-European ancestors, like certain minorities in China and Korea. But due to social marginalization ,they are being absorbed by the dominant ethnicities.
但確實(shí)，有些韓國(guó)人的膚色可以和一些歐洲人一樣淺，有時(shí)甚至更白，但他們的面部特征與歐洲人完全不同。
一些現(xiàn)代東亞人有古代印歐人祖先的痕跡，比如中國(guó)和韓國(guó)的一些少數(shù)民族。但由于社會(huì)邊緣化，他們正在被主流民族同化。
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To me “white” people are those who have light skin. It has nothing to do with your nationality (which is what your passport says) or even your original race classification (originally 3 major biological races - negroid, mongoloid, caucasian). Caucasians are not necessarily “white” skinned for example see US supreme court cases that vary regarding whether Middle Eastern people and Indians (from India) are Caucasians or not (some cases say yes they are Caucasian and others say no). Think of it this way, original race classifications were purely biological not political like today. So, if you were do find the skeleton of some person dead for two hundred years and examine it, could you tell if it was female or male (yes), could you tell if they were african, far eastern, or Caucasian (yes), all based on bone structure etc. These days since the classical races have mixed so much it would be difficult to tell what category some human skulls etc belong to, but originally race class was based on skeletal biology not skin color. Skin color is political. I mean is an albino a white person?
在我看來(lái)，“白種人”是指那些皮膚白皙的人。這與國(guó)籍（護(hù)照上寫(xiě)的）或最初的種族分類(lèi)無(wú)關(guān)（最初有三大生物種族——黑種人、蒙古人和高加索人）。高加索人不一定是‘白膚’的，例如看看美國(guó)最高法院的案例，這些案例對(duì)中東人和印度人（來(lái)自印度）是否屬于高加索人存在不同看法（有些案例說(shuō)他們是高加索人，有些則說(shuō)不是）?？梢赃@樣想，最初的種族分類(lèi)純粹是生物學(xué)上的，而不是像今天這樣政治上的。因此，如果你找到一個(gè)死去兩百年的人類(lèi)骨骼并進(jìn)行檢查，你能判斷出是女性還是男性（可以），你能判斷出他們是非洲人、遠(yuǎn)東人還是高加索人（可以），這都基于骨骼結(jié)構(gòu)等等。如今，由于經(jīng)典種族之間的混合太多，很難判斷某些人類(lèi)頭骨等屬于哪個(gè)類(lèi)別，但最初的種族分類(lèi)是基于骨骼生物學(xué)，而不是膚色。膚色是政治問(wèn)題。我是說(shuō)，白化病患者算不算白人？”
The concept of "white", as a race, emerges in 1781 from the hand of Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, who proposed the denomination Caucasian race for the European population, and developed the hypothesis according to which light-skinned people would have originated or dispersed in the cold lands of the Caucasus mountains. Around 1855, Joseph Arthur de Gobineau, in his Essay on the Inequality of Human Races, argued that the Nordic race was the best of all; he denied the existence of the white race, and said that mixing with other groups was detrimental, as this would degenerate "racial purity".
“‘白人’作為一個(gè)種族的概念，源于1781年，由約翰·弗里德里?！げ悸〔┖仗岢觯嶙h將歐洲人口命名為高加索人種，并發(fā)展出一種假設(shè)，即淺膚色人群起源或分布于寒冷的高加索山脈地區(qū)。大約在1855年，約瑟夫·阿圖爾·德·戈賓諾在他的《論人種之不平等》中主張，北歐人種是所有人種中最優(yōu)越的；他否認(rèn)白人種族的存在，認(rèn)為與其他群體的混合是有害的，因?yàn)檫@會(huì)降低“種族純潔性”。
Today there is a broad scientific consensus that there are no human races in a biological sense.
戈比諾關(guān)于種族純潔的觀點(diǎn)影響了19世紀(jì)下半葉以來(lái)發(fā)展起來(lái)的種族主義和優(yōu)越主義團(tuán)體的理論，例如德國(guó)的納粹主義或美國(guó)的三K黨。
如今，科學(xué)界已達(dá)成廣泛共識(shí)，認(rèn)為從生物學(xué)意義上來(lái)說(shuō)，人類(lèi)并不存在種族。
Koreans aren’t called “white” because “white” means “descended from indigenous Europeans (and sometimes their close cousins, middle easterners and northern Africans, depending who you ask)”. It doesn’t actually have much to do with your skin color; that’s just how the language developed. ;)
韓國(guó)人不被稱(chēng)為“白人”，因?yàn)椤鞍兹恕币馕吨霸醋酝林鴼W洲人（有時(shí)也包括他們的近親，比如中東人和北非人，具體看你問(wèn)誰(shuí)）”。它實(shí)際上與皮膚顏色關(guān)系不大；這只是語(yǔ)言發(fā)展的結(jié)果。 ;)
And anyway, I’m pretty sure there are both dark and fair Koreans, judging by the character designs you see in all their adorable little romance webcomics that I definitely don’t read. ;)
無(wú)論如何，“白人”與“美國(guó)人”毫無(wú)關(guān)系。個(gè)是非常廣泛的民族類(lèi)別，另一個(gè)是一個(gè)龐大的多民族國(guó)家。顯然，它們有重疊，但“紅發(fā)”和“慢跑者”也是一樣。在這兩種情況下，兩者都不是定義對(duì)方的一部分。
而且，我敢肯定，韓國(guó)人中既有膚色深的也有膚色淺的，看看你在所有那些可愛(ài)的小浪漫網(wǎng)絡(luò)漫畫(huà)中看到的角色設(shè)計(jì)就知道了，盡管我并不是在讀這些漫畫(huà)。 ;)
Koreans aren’t Caucasians just as a typical Scottish person can’t be called an Asian. America is made out of many races and ethnicities. A Korean can be an American. The US is much more mixed and diverse than South Korea. Roughly 70% of Americans are Caucasian. 30% are not.
韓國(guó)人并不是白種人，就像典型的蘇格蘭人不能被稱(chēng)為亞洲人一樣。美國(guó)由許多種族和民族組成。韓國(guó)人可以是美國(guó)人。美國(guó)的種族和民族更加混雜和多樣化，大約70%的美國(guó)人是白種人，30%不是。
Koreans are not classified as white due to ethnic and racial classifications based on cultural, historical, and geographical factors rather than just skin color. Classification systems vary and are often influenced by broader social and historical contexts. For more information, see my Quora Profile!
韓國(guó)人并不被歸類(lèi)為白人，因?yàn)榉N族和民族的分類(lèi)是基于文化、歷史和地理因素，而不僅僅是膚色。分類(lèi)系統(tǒng)各不相同，通常受到更廣泛的社會(huì)和歷史背景的影響。欲了解更多信息，請(qǐng)查看我的Quora個(gè)人資料！
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The term "white" in a racial context is typically used to describe people of European descent, not based on skin tone alone. Although some Koreans may have lighter skin, they are categorized racially as East Asian. Skin color varies widely among individuals, and the term "white" in this context refers to ethnicity rather than just skin color. For more insights into racial terminology and its implications, check out my Quora Profile!
在種族背景下，“白人”一詞通常用來(lái)描述歐洲血統(tǒng)的人，而不僅僅是基于膚色。盡管一些韓國(guó)人可能膚色較淺，但他們?cè)诜N族上被歸類(lèi)為東亞人。個(gè)體之間的膚色差異很大，而在這個(gè)上下文中，“白人”一詞指的是族裔而不僅僅是膚色。有關(guān)種族術(shù)語(yǔ)及其影響的更多見(jiàn)解，請(qǐng)查看我的Quora個(gè)人資料！
um excuse me? “Whiter skin than Americans?” There are black Americans, white Americans, Yellowish Americans, brown Americans, and a ton of other colors. Americans are all different colors, unless you’re talking about native Americans who are in general brown-ish. Make a question that makes sense please
請(qǐng)問(wèn)？“比美國(guó)人更白的皮膚？”美國(guó)有黑人、白人、黃皮膚的美國(guó)人、棕色的美國(guó)人，還有很多其他膚色。美國(guó)人有各種不同的膚色，除非你在談?wù)撘话闶亲厣耐林绹?guó)人。請(qǐng)問(wèn)一個(gè)有意義的問(wèn)題。
Americans come in all different colors so if you added them all together they would probably be darker than most Koreans which are more homogeneous but they aren’t considered white.
美國(guó)人有各種膚色，所以如果你把他們加在一起，他們可能比大多數(shù)更同質(zhì)的韓國(guó)人膚色更深，但他們并不被認(rèn)為是白人。
In my humble view, Americans need to stop with the race obsession.
If you still want to be race obsessed, there are a few more permutations to consider, such as:
I live in Korea, mum is Korean, dad is American. Am I white or Asian?
在我看來(lái)，美國(guó)人需要停止對(duì)種族的過(guò)度關(guān)注。
如果你還想繼續(xù)關(guān)注種族，還有更多的情況需要考慮，比如：
我住在韓國(guó)，媽媽是韓國(guó)人，爸爸是美國(guó)人。我是白人還是亞洲人？
My mum and dad are both Korean, came to the US, had me in the US. I grew up in the US, consider myself American. Am I white or Asian or something else?
All racists struggle with these sorts of questions. Don’t be a racist. Treat people as individuals. Judge people by the content of their character.
我是一名韓國(guó)女性，為了讓自己的臉看起來(lái)更白，我避免曬太陽(yáng)?，F(xiàn)在我看起來(lái)很白。我是白人還是亞洲人？
我的父母都是韓國(guó)人，來(lái)美國(guó)后在這里生了我。我在美國(guó)長(zhǎng)大，自認(rèn)為是美國(guó)人。我是白人、亞洲人還是其他？
所有種族主義者都會(huì)面臨這些問(wèn)題。不要成為種族主義者。把人當(dāng)作個(gè)體來(lái)對(duì)待。根據(jù)他們的品格來(lái)評(píng)判他們。
Well many East Indians are darker or are as dark as a lot of African Americans. Yet, no one calls East Indians black.
It comes down to who came to America first. Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans came to America before Koreans or Indians or other groups did so they’re called white and black even if other groups overlap with European and African skin tones.
許多東印度人膚色比很多非裔美國(guó)人還要深，甚至和他們一樣黑。然而，沒(méi)有人稱(chēng)東印度人為黑人。
這歸結(jié)于誰(shuí)最早來(lái)到美國(guó)。歐洲人和撒哈拉以南的非洲人早于韓國(guó)人、印度人或其他群體來(lái)到美國(guó)，所以他們被稱(chēng)為白人和黑人，即使其他群體與歐洲人和非洲人的膚色有所重疊。
Koreans have the ability to show their tan gift. But maybe some cannot tan at all.
韓國(guó)人有能力展現(xiàn)他們的曬黑天賦。但也許有些人根本無(wú)法曬黑。
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