在美國(guó)或加拿大等國(guó)家避開(kāi)印度老板是個(gè)好主意嗎？

Gilbean
They pay horrible for anyone to work for them

他們給別人提供的工作薪酬低得可憐。

Mukund Upadhyaya
As an Indian reading this from India, I truly feel bad for you guys. I had not imagined this was actually possible. I thought Americans were like this.

作為一個(gè)在印度讀到這些評(píng)論的印度人，我真的為你們感到難過(guò)。我從未想過(guò)這種情況會(huì)真的發(fā)生。我原以為這種事情只會(huì)發(fā)生在美國(guó)人身上。

Anonymous
It is more appropiate to say that WILL AVOID YOU. India is a communal society, so once an Indian is in a position of “power” (at least to hire), they will Hire ONLY Indian (maybe A few whites). If you don’t believe me see the areas where an Indian was promoted and see the shift in the workforce.

更準(zhǔn)確的說(shuō)法是，他們會(huì)避開(kāi)你。印度是一個(gè)群體性社會(huì)，所以一旦印度人掌握“權(quán)力”（至少有權(quán)招聘），他們只會(huì)雇用印度人（可能會(huì)雇幾個(gè)白人）。如果你不相信，可以看看那些由印度人升職后管理的地區(qū)，觀察下員工構(gòu)成的變化。

Now assume that you get hired by the indian boss, they are coming from a CAST societies and they expect you to follow their lead WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONING. I have noticed their egos are inflated (I have even read their “secret” forums where they help each other to pass interviews, get visas etc), they mention they are the smartest in the world over whites, blacks etc, but this is not true, they have some smart people like any other ethnicity, in fact the smartest developer/technical person I have ever worked with was a Brazilian, a Russian and a white american.

假設(shè)你被印度老板雇用了，他們來(lái)自種姓制度社會(huì)，期望你無(wú)條件服從他們的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)。我注意到他們的自尊心很強(qiáng)（我甚至看過(guò)他們的“秘密”論壇，他們互相幫助通過(guò)面試、拿到簽證等），他們聲稱自己比白人、黑人等人聰明，但這并不是真的。他們和其他族裔一樣有聰明人。實(shí)際上，我合作過(guò)最聰明的開(kāi)發(fā)者/技術(shù)人員是巴西人、俄羅斯人和美國(guó)白人。

I would avoid them. But because somebody gave them a chance in tech now it’s hard to avoid them.

我會(huì)盡量避開(kāi)他們。但由于有人給了他們?cè)诳萍碱I(lǐng)域的機(jī)會(huì)，現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)很難避開(kāi)他們了。

L.E. Willis-Smith
I’ve also found the best programmers are white US people and Russians (I’m not from either of these places, but that’s what I’ve seen).

我也發(fā)現(xiàn)最優(yōu)秀的程序員是美國(guó)白人和俄羅斯人（雖然我并不來(lái)自這些地方，但這是我的觀察）。

Raisa Agafonovna
I experienced this on myself. They promote their own people and avoid hiring other groups. This slowly turned into a survival mode for me so I moved on and they hired another person with a funky name from the same origin. This is in a publicly traded software company.

我也親身經(jīng)歷過(guò)這種情況。他們提拔自己人，不愿意雇傭其他群體。為了生存，我只能離開(kāi)了，結(jié)果他們又雇了一個(gè)同樣來(lái)自印度的員工。這發(fā)生在一家上市軟件公司。

Katelynn Simmons
This is so true!

這真的太真實(shí)了！

Ron Suverkrop
I worked at a mostly Indian architecture office in Santa Clara - they had very condescending attitudes toward us. Before that I worked for another Indian architecture office and had to work as a 1099 for 3 years - same condescending attitudes and yet another firm, same thing with a condescending micromanager - now I study all the time to think the way they think to also be at the top of my game too

我曾在圣克拉拉的一家印度人主導(dǎo)的建筑事務(wù)所工作，他們對(duì)我們態(tài)度非常傲慢。在此之前，我在另一家印度事務(wù)所工作了3年，也是同樣的傲慢態(tài)度。再之后，在另一家公司，我又遇到一個(gè)居高臨下的微觀管理者。現(xiàn)在，我一直在努力學(xué)習(xí)，試圖像他們一樣思考，這樣我也能在工作中保持頂尖水平。

Javier Quintana
I’m working with an Indian Boss, is absolutely true. I’m the exception of the rule because some accidental situation and my multidisciplinary experience in the field. Indian Bosses hire most Indian people, even if they are not very well qualified. Once in the company, Bosses protect them, even if they made terrible mistakes, that cost considerable money and problems to the company.

我目前的老板是印度人，情況的確如此。我之所以成為例外，是因?yàn)槟承┡既坏臋C(jī)會(huì)和我在該領(lǐng)域的多學(xué)科經(jīng)驗(yàn)。印度老板大多只雇用印度人——即便他們的資歷不足。一旦進(jìn)入公司，哪怕他們犯下嚴(yán)重錯(cuò)誤，導(dǎo)致公司蒙受巨大損失和麻煩，老板們就會(huì)保護(hù)他們。

Saravana Kumar
“they are coming from a CAST societies and they expect you to follow their lead WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONING” - - - Its True ( i am an indian and i am totally against it )

“他們來(lái)自種姓社會(huì)，期望你毫無(wú)疑問(wèn)地服從他們的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)”——這是真的。（我是印度人，但我完全反對(duì)這種做法。）

Ron Suverkrop
I’m an American in my own country and they treat us with condescending attitudes like we are some lower caste

我是美國(guó)人，生活在自己的國(guó)家，但他們對(duì)待我們的態(tài)度，就像我們是低種姓一樣。
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Timothy Bradford
That’s because to them you are.

對(duì)他們來(lái)說(shuō)，你確實(shí)就是低種姓。

Caro Gibson
Help

救救我。

Ornate Hawk
They hire the same caste and sometimes same sex

他們經(jīng)常雇用同種姓的人，有時(shí)甚至是同性別的員工。

Gabriel Corona
They should drop their stupid traditions if they are in America or Canada. Keep that stuff away from here.

如果他們來(lái)到美國(guó)或加拿大，就應(yīng)該摒棄這些愚蠢的傳統(tǒng)，別把這些帶到這里來(lái)。

Ghulam RasoolAllah(The Final Prophet)
It should also be noted that they will likely hire only those Indians like them, unless they have to. For example, their ethnic background within India and religion too plays a role. A Hindu Indian manager would likely not hire a Christian, Muslim or Sikh (even if he is more skilled) over a Hindu. So for Indian managers it is not just that they are Indian rather what ethnic/language group and what religious group too matter.

還需要注意的是，他們很可能只會(huì)雇用那些與自己相似的印度人，除非萬(wàn)不得已。比如，印度經(jīng)理的民族背景和宗教信仰也起著重要作用。一個(gè)印度教的經(jīng)理很可能不會(huì)雇用基督徒、穆斯林或錫克教徒（即便他們能力更強(qiáng)），而是更傾向于選擇印度教徒。因此，對(duì)印度經(jīng)理來(lái)說(shuō)，不僅僅是印度人，更重要的是他們的民族、語(yǔ)言和宗教背景。

Bette
After working in silicon valley about 30 some years, I have never had Brazilian coworkers, but true the most brilliant engineers are backgrounded in western education system.

我在硅谷工作了大約30年，雖然從未與巴西人共事過(guò)，但確實(shí)，最杰出的工程師大多受過(guò)西方教育。

James Heffernan
Yes.

沒(méi)錯(cuò)。

Ron Suverkrop
You just have to be better than them - many Americans just got laid off in tech for not keeping up - don’t be one of them

你只需要比他們更優(yōu)秀——科技行業(yè)很多美國(guó)人在被裁員，因?yàn)樗麄兏簧献兓灰蔀樗麄冎械囊粏T。

Bikash
Racial discrimination or say discrimination based on social status, looks, color etc very much prevails in US, Europe anywhere and West is full of it. So stop lecturing such bullshit!

種族歧視或基于社會(huì)地位、外貌、膚色的歧視，在美國(guó)、歐洲和西方各地都非常普遍。所以，別再講這些虛偽的廢話了！

Trent Sylvester
They don't have a discriminatory caste system though. That comes from your hindu religion.

但西方?jīng)]有種姓制度，那是源自你的印度教文化。

Lalu Bhaiya
If you get an opportunity to work with an Indian (boss or colleague), just run, run as far as you can. They will make your life so miserable and toxic that you will suffer day and night.

如果你有機(jī)會(huì)和印度人一起工作（無(wú)論是作為老板還是同事），趕緊逃，跑得越遠(yuǎn)越好。他們會(huì)讓你的生活變得無(wú)比痛苦和有毒，你會(huì)日夜受煎熬。

Lucy Johnson
It depends. However, please note that a lot of them think differently.

這要視情況而定，不過(guò)請(qǐng)注意，許多印度人的思維方式確實(shí)不同。

(1) Here in the US if you have a different idea, you can bring it up freely to your boss most of the time. However, I noticed that if I suggest a new idea/perspective/understanding an indian boss is taking it personally and thinks that I’m questioning his reasoning and challenging his authority. If you don’t mind just being a human robot following exactly what you were ordered to do….. then you would be fine.

在美國(guó)，如果你有不同的想法，大多數(shù)時(shí)候你可以自由地向老板提出意見(jiàn)。然而，我發(fā)現(xiàn)當(dāng)我向印度老板提出新的想法或觀點(diǎn)時(shí)，他會(huì)覺(jué)得這是在質(zhì)疑他的判斷，挑戰(zhàn)他的權(quán)威。如果你不介意只做一個(gè)完全聽(tīng)從指令的“機(jī)器人”，那么你應(yīng)該沒(méi)問(wèn)題。

(2) Additionally, be ware that you might have to answer questions like what your parents’ occupations are, what car you own, etc. that are perceived as potentially nosy/invasive questions. I get it that this is partially due to cultural differences but nevertheless it doesn’t justify asking such questions when we’re not at all familiar with each other.

另外，你可能會(huì)遇到一些像“你父母是做什么的？”、“你開(kāi)什么車？”這樣讓人覺(jué)得多管閑事或冒犯的問(wèn)題。我理解這是文化差異的體現(xiàn)，但無(wú)論如何，在彼此不熟悉的情況下問(wèn)這樣的問(wèn)題并不合適。

(3) You should get used to small talks among indian colleagues. It’s totally fine for people to communicate in their mother tongue, I definitely see no problem. However, when working in a US office, some of the indian team leads tend to speak in Hindi and talk loudly all the time.

你應(yīng)該適應(yīng)印度同事之間的閑聊。我認(rèn)為人們用他們的母語(yǔ)交流是完全可以接受的，我對(duì)此沒(méi)有任何異議。然而，在美國(guó)辦公室工作時(shí)，有時(shí)會(huì)遇到一些印度團(tuán)隊(duì)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)經(jīng)常用印地語(yǔ)交談，并且說(shuō)話聲音很大。

(4) As a female, you probably would have some difficulties with promotion.
The above points are just my observations. For different people, they may or may not matter.

作為女性，你可能在晉升方面會(huì)遇到一些困難。
以上只是我的一些觀察。對(duì)不同的人來(lái)說(shuō)，這些問(wèn)題可能會(huì)有所不同。

TangoMan
Ceertainly yes, They always will indulge in empire building with yay saying employees and will only hire Indian origin employees to remain secure in their position.

確實(shí)如此，他們總是圍繞著忠實(shí)的員工建立自己的“小王國(guó)”，并且只會(huì)雇用印度裔員工來(lái)保障自己的職位安全。

Rishi Jha
Just avoid Indians altogether if you must. If you wish to imbibe the best of what the west has to offer and excel in your creativity and passion just avoid Indians. I have learnt from experience. Besides that's the true meaning of an immigrant...you immerse yourself in the local culture and make something of that country-something that Indians as a rule cannot do.

如果你必須選擇，盡量遠(yuǎn)離印度人。如果你想吸收西方文化的精華，發(fā)揮你的創(chuàng)造力和激情，那就遠(yuǎn)離印度人吧，這是我的經(jīng)驗(yàn)之談。此外，移民的真正意義就是融入當(dāng)?shù)匚幕?，為那個(gè)國(guó)家做出貢獻(xiàn)，而印度人通常做不到這一點(diǎn)。

Anonymous
Thank you. That is what I felt when I was being interviewed by an Indian boss. He was talking to me from the USA while was in a country nearby. I felt the interview was not going anywhere. He was trying to assert how good he was as a professional, and I was surprised that he was not familiar with a Canadian bachelor's degree. He, with his Indian degree, had the impression that a Canadian Computer Engineering degree should belong to a Science department, not Applied Science. He said, he worked till midnight (to maintain a group of outsourced people in India as well as on-site engineers in Canada). I said to myself, stay away from him. You are right, I am living in the West to get the best of it, not to put up with some narrow-minded mentality coming from an Indian boss regardless of whether he is physically in India or not.

謝謝你，這正是我在被一位印度老板面試時(shí)的感受。他人在美國(guó)，而我在附近的國(guó)家。我感覺(jué)面試毫無(wú)進(jìn)展，他一直試圖強(qiáng)調(diào)自己有多專業(yè)，我驚訝于他對(duì)加拿大學(xué)士學(xué)位的無(wú)知。他以為加拿大的計(jì)算機(jī)工程學(xué)位屬于理學(xué)院，而不是應(yīng)用科學(xué)學(xué)院。他說(shuō)自己工作到午夜（因?yàn)橐芾碛《鹊耐獍鼒F(tuán)隊(duì)和加拿大的現(xiàn)場(chǎng)工程師）。我心里暗想，離他遠(yuǎn)點(diǎn)吧。你說(shuō)得對(duì)，我是來(lái)西方享受最好的文化的，不是來(lái)忍受一個(gè)狹隘的印度老板的，無(wú)論他是否身在印度。

Kevin Fitzpatrick
Agreed. The are generally a lying culture

同意，他們一般來(lái)說(shuō)是一個(gè)謊言文化。

Ron Suverkrop
I worked for Indian bosses for 7 years(architecture) they are tough and you better have your sh*t together or they will micromanage you. Also, you have to be on call 24/7 -

我為印度老板工作了7年（建筑行業(yè)），他們要求嚴(yán)格，你必須處理得非常妥當(dāng)，否則他們會(huì)管死你；而且，你需要24小時(shí)待命。

Alessandra Oliveira
Lying comes to them naturally

撒謊對(duì)他們來(lái)說(shuō)就像天性一樣。

Anonymous
Yes. I had an Indian boss and he was fine until our team increased in size. He started becoming nasty with staff and behaving erratically. Then he just abandoned staff who had served him for years. He showed no loyalty or empathy for these people and basically drove them out of the workplace. He treated them very cheaply indeed. I don’t know if it was because he is an Indian or just a strange disloyal person but it was very disillusioning. Maybe there are idiosyncratic traits in different ethnicities that are not studied or researched. Maybe there are no negative traits connected to Indians at all. But it is worth mentioning.

我也曾遇到過(guò)一個(gè)印度老板，最初他還不錯(cuò)，但隨著團(tuán)隊(duì)擴(kuò)展，他開(kāi)始對(duì)員工越來(lái)越苛刻，行為也變得很怪異。最后，他拋棄了那些跟隨他多年的員工，毫無(wú)忠誠(chéng)心或同情心，簡(jiǎn)直像趕他們出公司一樣。他對(duì)待這些人非常吝嗇。我不知道這是因?yàn)樗怯《热耍€是他本身就是一個(gè)不忠誠(chéng)的怪人，但這讓我非常失望?；蛟S不同民族確實(shí)存在一些獨(dú)特的行為特征，只是尚未被研究出來(lái)。也許印度人沒(méi)有任何特定的負(fù)面特質(zhì)，但這確實(shí)值得一提。
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Mugen Wang
I am an Indian and I can tell you that it is because he was from my country. Trust me. I’m fed up as well in a corporate job working with these da** a**holes. But I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one. There are lots of people on quora that validate this for me: What is it like to work for an Indian boss? Good or bad experiences stories is deeply appreciated.

我是印度人，可以告訴你，這是因?yàn)樗麃?lái)自我的國(guó)家。相信我，我在公司工作時(shí)也對(duì)這些家伙感到厭煩。但我很高興發(fā)現(xiàn)我不是唯一一個(gè)有這種感覺(jué)的人。在Quora上有很多人的經(jīng)歷證實(shí)了我的看法：為印度老板工作是怎樣的體驗(yàn)？我很期待聽(tīng)到大家的好或壞的故事。

Saifullah Phi ibn Tran
You spoke for thousands of people with your descxtions. Very accurate.

你的描述說(shuō)出了成千上萬(wàn)人的心聲，非常準(zhǔn)確。

L.E. Willis-Smith
The US is one of the most amazing countries I’ve ever travelled to and worked in. They are hard working and full of amazing, creative ideas. It’s no coincidence they have the top tech companies in the world because they’re so smart.

美國(guó)是我去過(guò)并工作過(guò)的最令人驚嘆的國(guó)家之一。美國(guó)人工作非常勤奮，充滿了令人驚嘆的創(chuàng)造力。他們擁有世界上最頂尖的科技公司絕非偶然，因?yàn)樗麄冋娴姆浅Ｂ斆鳌?/b>