Everyone at first thought 'Made in China 2030' list, was real. But recent events suggest otherwise. Can China actually do it? Can China really make its own aeroplanes, semiconductors, electric cars, etc., by 2030, just 5 years from now?

起初大家都認(rèn)為“中國(guó)制造2030”清單是真實(shí)的。但最近的事件表明并非如此。中國(guó)真的能做到嗎？中國(guó)真的能在2030年，也就是5年后，制造自己的飛機(jī)、半導(dǎo)體、電動(dòng)汽車等嗎？

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam
Let's see the list of Chinese achievements between 2015–2025
Indigenous Fighter Aircraft Engines
Indigenous On board Radar
Indigenous Avionics
Indigenous Wind Tunnel
Indigenous Commercial Aircraft Body (Duralium)
Indigenous Aircraft Wheels
Indigenous Landing Gear
Full Dominance in Legacy Chips (<= 45 nm Node process) manufacturing
Dominance in Chip Design (Upto 3 nm)
Indigenous Stealth Technology
Indigenous Rare Earth Refining dominance
Indigenous Green Energy Technologies - Hydrogen, Batteries
Indigenous Nuclear Technology
Indigenous Satellite design & manufacturing
Indigenous Satellite Constellation and Navigation
Indigenous 5G Equipment and Communications edge
China has achieved “Par” or even “Dominant” Status in all these areas in the last decade
Here is the list of things China aims to develop Par Status by 2035:-
Optical Instruments & Opto electronics
Manufacturing Dominance in Non Legacy Chips (7–28 nm Node Process)
Indigenous supply chain for GPU Chips
Indigenous 6G Equipment and Communications edge
MRI Machines
Immunotherapy Drugs for Cancer & Auto Immune Diseases
Commercial Aircraft Engines
Commercial Aircraft Body (Composite Materials)
Hypersonic Missiles
Advanced Stealth Technology
I see no reason why China can't achieve their demands between 2025–2035
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Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam
Let's see the list of Chinese achievements between 2015–2025
Indigenous Fighter Aircraft Engines
Indigenous On board Radar
Indigenous Avionics
Indigenous Wind Tunnel
Indigenous Commercial Aircraft Body (Duralium)
Indigenous Aircraft Wheels
Indigenous Landing Gear
Full Dominance in Legacy Chips (<= 45 nm Node process) manufacturing
Dominance in Chip Design (Upto 3 nm)
Indigenous Stealth Technology
Indigenous Rare Earth Refining dominance
Indigenous Green Energy Technologies - Hydrogen, Batteries
Indigenous Nuclear Technology
Indigenous Satellite design & manufacturing
Indigenous Satellite Constellation and Navigation
Indigenous 5G Equipment and Communications edge
China has achieved “Par” or even “Dominant” Status in all these areas in the last decade
Here is the list of things China aims to develop Par Status by 2035:-
Optical Instruments & Opto electronics
Manufacturing Dominance in Non Legacy Chips (7–28 nm Node Process)
Indigenous supply chain for GPU Chips
Indigenous 6G Equipment and Communications edge
MRI Machines
Immunotherapy Drugs for Cancer & Auto Immune Diseases
Commercial Aircraft Engines
Commercial Aircraft Body (Composite Materials)
Hypersonic Missiles
Advanced Stealth Technology
I see no reason why China can't achieve their demands between 2025–2035

讓我們看看中國(guó)在2015-2025年間的成就：
自主研發(fā)的戰(zhàn)斗機(jī)發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)，
自主研發(fā)的機(jī)載雷達(dá)，
自主研發(fā)的航空電子設(shè)備，
自主研發(fā)的風(fēng)洞，
自主研發(fā)的商用飛機(jī)機(jī)身（硬鋁），
自主研發(fā)的飛機(jī)輪子，
自主研發(fā)的起落架，
在傳統(tǒng)芯片（<= 45納米節(jié)點(diǎn)工藝）制造領(lǐng)域的全面主導(dǎo)地位，
在芯片設(shè)計(jì)（最高3納米）領(lǐng)域的主導(dǎo)地位，
自主研發(fā)的隱身技術(shù)，
在稀土精煉領(lǐng)域的主導(dǎo)地位，
自主研發(fā)的綠色能源技術(shù)——?dú)淠?、電?br /> 自主研發(fā)的核技術(shù)，
自主研發(fā)的衛(wèi)星設(shè)計(jì)與制造，
自主研發(fā)的衛(wèi)星星座和導(dǎo)航系統(tǒng)，
自主研發(fā)的5G設(shè)備和通信優(yōu)勢(shì)，
在過(guò)去十年中，中國(guó)在這些領(lǐng)域已經(jīng)達(dá)到“同等水平”甚至“主導(dǎo)地位”。
以下是到2035年中國(guó)計(jì)劃達(dá)到同等水平的領(lǐng)域：
光學(xué)儀器與光電子學(xué)，
在非傳統(tǒng)芯片（7-28納米節(jié)點(diǎn)工藝）制造領(lǐng)域的主導(dǎo)地位，
GPU芯片的自主供應(yīng)鏈，
自主研發(fā)的6G設(shè)備和通信優(yōu)勢(shì)，
MRI機(jī)器，
癌癥和自身免疫性疾病的免疫治療藥物，
商用飛機(jī)發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)，
商用飛機(jī)機(jī)身（復(fù)合材料），
高超音速導(dǎo)彈，
先進(jìn)的隱身技術(shù)，
我看不出中國(guó)為什么不能在2025-2035年間實(shí)現(xiàn)這些目標(biāo)。
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Ashby Lisbon
For hypersonic missiles, I believe China is already world leading.

對(duì)于高超音速導(dǎo)彈，我相信中國(guó)已經(jīng)是世界領(lǐng)先了。
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Cheong Tee
Many decades ago China hosted a hypersonic research conference. A scientist from US was surprised that China would publish pressure field signature data, because such data could be used to design anti-hypersonic weapons. Chinese scientists did not feel a need to be defensive at that time.

幾十年前，中國(guó)舉辦了一次高超音速研究會(huì)議。一位來(lái)自美國(guó)的科學(xué)家驚訝于中國(guó)會(huì)公開(kāi)壓力場(chǎng)特征數(shù)據(jù)，因?yàn)檫@些數(shù)據(jù)可以用來(lái)設(shè)計(jì)反高超音速武器。當(dāng)時(shí)中國(guó)科學(xué)家并不覺(jué)得需要采取防御姿態(tài)。

Kiara
No. Russia is leading. China currently has only hybrid glide vehicle. Russia is leading followed by India and then by China.

不，俄羅斯才是領(lǐng)先的。中國(guó)目前只有混合滑翔飛行器。俄羅斯領(lǐng)先，其次是印度，然后是中國(guó)。
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Simon Dan
Can you prove that?

你能證明這一點(diǎn)嗎？

Kiara
Okay, name the Chinese alternative to Russia's hypersonic cruise missile Zircon. The same Zircon will be made in India as Brahmos 2.

好吧，說(shuō)出中國(guó)能替代俄羅斯“鋯石”高超音速巡航導(dǎo)彈的武器。同樣的“鋯石”將在印度制造，稱為“布拉莫斯2”。

Koh Soo Thiam
India no.2? You joker.

印度第二？你在開(kāi)玩笑吧。

Kiara
It is true, right? Or else prove me wrong.

這是真的，否則你證明我錯(cuò)了。
Lù Shèng An 陸盛安
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Lololololololol

哈哈哈哈哈哈

Kiara
Name your Chinese hypersonic cruise missile.

說(shuō)出中國(guó)的高超音速巡航導(dǎo)彈的名字。

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Moa Aier
China has crossed the tipping point in innovation, development and making breakthroughs. There isn't anything that can really pull or hold back China's development now. As ASML Chief said, “the laws of physics is the same everywhere”, referring that sanctions cannot hold back China from developing their own UEV machines. But the US and the west still seems to think otherwise.

中國(guó)已經(jīng)在創(chuàng)新、發(fā)展和突破方面越過(guò)了臨界點(diǎn)。現(xiàn)在沒(méi)有什么能真正阻止中國(guó)的發(fā)展。正如ASML首席執(zhí)行官所說(shuō)，“物理定律在任何地方都是一樣的”，這意味著制裁無(wú)法阻止中國(guó)開(kāi)發(fā)自己的極紫外光刻機(jī)。但美國(guó)和西方似乎仍然不這么認(rèn)為。

Sathyaswamy S
India will lead the world in manufacturing cow dung chips and gaumutra fuel for vehicles.

印度將在制造牛糞芯片和牛尿燃料方面引領(lǐng)世界。

ShaanChowdhary
I think India can out produce every nation in reproduction and that's the plan of current govt, free ration for rabble so they can keep the production process going for ever.. Mean while the middle class we export to other nations will build that nation.

我認(rèn)為印度可以在人口繁殖方面超過(guò)任何國(guó)家，這是當(dāng)前政府的計(jì)劃，為底層提供免費(fèi)口糧，以便他們能永遠(yuǎn)保持繁殖過(guò)程。與此同時(shí)，我們出口到其他國(guó)家的中產(chǎn)階級(jí)將幫助建設(shè)那些國(guó)家。

Glenn Lee
America has 4 year election cycles, much campaigning, many speeches, something gets done. China has the 5 year plan or 5 year goals; much get done.

美國(guó)有4年的選舉周期，大量的競(jìng)選活動(dòng)，許多演講，有些事情會(huì)完成。中國(guó)有5年計(jì)劃或5年目標(biāo)；很多事情會(huì)完成。

Victory Srinivas
Yes I agree with you, China's speed of Development is unprecedented for a Developing country

是的，我同意你的觀點(diǎn)，中國(guó)的發(fā)展速度對(duì)于一個(gè)發(fā)展中國(guó)家來(lái)說(shuō)是前所未有的。

Siva Kumar
Good morning sir

早上好，先生。

Karthibio Karthi
Treachorous fuddus like KB must be dragged out in the sun and given proper belt treatment by law enforcement agencies with salt rubbed on the wounds. That account is no senior citizen nor Indian. It is a Chinese stooge under Chinese/Pxtani payroll (i.e, if Paxtan has the money to pay). It is the account (or multiple accounts) of a traitor.
Serpents like KB are dangerous for the country. They are like covert Maists too. They need to be weeded out by the law enforcement agencies and dealt accordingly. They must be made to rot in prison for years.

像KB這樣的叛徒必須被拖到陽(yáng)光下，由執(zhí)法機(jī)構(gòu)用皮帶好好教訓(xùn)一頓，并在傷口上撒鹽。他這個(gè)賬號(hào)既不是老年人也不是印度人。它是中國(guó)或巴基斯坦（如果巴基斯坦有錢支付的話）收買的走狗。這是一個(gè)叛徒的賬號(hào)（或多個(gè)賬號(hào)）。
像KB這樣的毒蛇對(duì)國(guó)家是危險(xiǎn)的。他們也是隱蔽的毛派分子。他們需要被執(zhí)法機(jī)構(gòu)清除并依法處理。他們必須在監(jiān)獄里腐爛多年。

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Seeto Yunguang
NOT ONLY WILL CHINA LEAD IN TECHNOLOGY…
THE US WILL BEG FOR MERCY AND SHARING OF THEIR IPs INSTEAD OF BIG MOUTHING CHINA STEALS ITS IPs…
SUCH IS THE GENIUS OF CHINA AND ITS PEOPLE…
FOREVER STRIVING TO DO BETTER, BETTER AND BEST…WHILST THE ROBBER US NATION’S PEOPLE SITS ON THEIR FAT ARSES AND GROW FAT EATING THEIR MAC AND KFCs TO HARI KARI….

中國(guó)不僅將在技術(shù)上領(lǐng)先……
美國(guó)將乞求寬恕并分享他們的知識(shí)產(chǎn)權(quán)，而不是大嘴巴說(shuō)中國(guó)偷了他們的知識(shí)產(chǎn)權(quán)……
這就是中國(guó)及其人民的智慧……
永遠(yuǎn)追求更好、更好和最好……而強(qiáng)盜美國(guó)的人民則坐在他們肥大的屁股上，吃著麥當(dāng)勞和肯德基，變得越來(lái)越胖，直到自取滅亡……

Wallan Wallan
US would just steal the technology. Natural for a country which government speak with a forked tongue, where black is white.

美國(guó)只會(huì)偷技術(shù)。對(duì)于一個(gè)政府說(shuō)話像蛇一樣、黑白顛倒的國(guó)家來(lái)說(shuō)，這很正常。

Suseel Nair
China has stolen so far, let US do it now.

中國(guó)已經(jīng)偷了這么多，現(xiàn)在讓美國(guó)也偷吧。

Suseel Nair
Was the aircrafts in Vedas , Subsonic, Supersonic or Hypersonic?

《吠陀經(jīng)》中的飛機(jī)是亞音速、超音速還是高超音速的？

Philip L
Well aiding for dominance of non-legacy chips is not so friendly to competition isn’t it? I don’t support the chip war but that certainly worries the industry.
Also highly doubt that China is dominating chip design.

支持非傳統(tǒng)芯片的主導(dǎo)地位對(duì)競(jìng)爭(zhēng)并不友好，不是嗎？
我不支持芯片戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)，但這確實(shí)讓行業(yè)感到擔(dān)憂。
我也高度懷疑中國(guó)在芯片設(shè)計(jì)領(lǐng)域的主導(dǎo)地位。

Goku San
india and like democracy country this is what you can only talk like free bird check comments your section a wise man trolling india compare cowdung that is what problem you get everything but you will not get freedom it's like you like you it is jail full of luxury

在印度和其他民主國(guó)家，你可以像自由鳥(niǎo)一樣說(shuō)話，看看評(píng)論區(qū)，一個(gè)聰明人在嘲諷印度，比較牛糞之類的，這就是問(wèn)題所在，你得到了一切，但你不會(huì)得到自由，就像你喜歡的那樣，這是一個(gè)充滿奢侈的監(jiān)獄。

Jeffery Lim
What crap are you speaking? You only need to dial 12345 on any complaint, which musr be resolved within 3 days. If more complex, it must legally be resolved within 3 weeks. You need to visit China before you make more self embarrassing comments.

你在說(shuō)什么廢話？你只需要撥打12345投訴，問(wèn)題必須在3天內(nèi)解決。如果更復(fù)雜，法律規(guī)定必須在3周內(nèi)解決。在你發(fā)表更多讓自己尷尬的評(píng)論之前，你需要去中國(guó)看看。

Lù Shèng An
Dude have you even been outside your home state in your life?

老兄，你這輩子出過(guò)你的家鄉(xiāng)嗎？
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Chien-Sheng Tsai
Where have you been ostrich? Hello!

你們?cè)谀睦铮r鳥(niǎo)？你好！

Putnam Monroe
They are making all of those items now. Any components that they currently aren't making they most certainly can make before then. They have the only other manned space station than ISS, they are making more EVs than Tesla, and when donOld's tariffs go into effect you will see just how much is currently made in China.

他們現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)在制造所有這些物品了。任何他們目前沒(méi)有制造的組件，他們肯定都能制造出來(lái)。他們擁有除國(guó)際空間站外唯一的載人空間站，他們制造的電動(dòng)汽車比特斯拉還多，當(dāng)特朗普的關(guān)稅生效時(shí)，你會(huì)看到有多少東西是中國(guó)制造的。

Rand
? They are already doing this now. There is a good chance any non food product you pick up in any shop already has a made in China sticker on the back, or contains parts made in China.

？，他們現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)在做這些了。你在任何商店拿起的任何非食品產(chǎn)品，很有可能背面已經(jīng)貼有“中國(guó)制造”的標(biāo)簽，或者包含中國(guó)制造的零件。

Steve Noskowicz
Electrical Engineer, Many Radio & other Systems (1955–present)
What rock have YOU been under? Among other things, China’s electric cars are already causing market stress. . .
Q: Everyone at first thought 'Made in China 2030' list, was real. But recent events suggest otherwise. Can China actually do it? Can China really make its own aeroplanes, semiconductors, electric cars, etc., by 2030, just 5 years from now?

問(wèn)題：起初大家都認(rèn)為“中國(guó)制造2030”清單是真實(shí)的。但最近的事件表明并非如此。中國(guó)真的能做到嗎？中國(guó)真的能在2030年，也就是5年后，制造自己的飛機(jī)、半導(dǎo)體、電動(dòng)汽車等嗎？
你躲在什么石頭下面嗎？除了其他的外，中國(guó)的電動(dòng)汽車已經(jīng)在引起市場(chǎng)壓力了。

Jim Halliday
No need for them to wait until 2030. They’re already building their own commercial airplanes, - check out the Comack - they are the largest consumer of EV’s in the world and manufacture many of them in their own plants with some even more sophisticated than Teslas. They can’t make some of the chips they need but are quickly catching up. They are going to have to add new items to their list if they want a challenge for 2030.

他們不需要等到2030年。他們已經(jīng)在制造自己的商用飛機(jī)了——看看C919——他們是世界上最大的電動(dòng)汽車消費(fèi)者，并在自己的工廠里制造了許多電動(dòng)汽車，其中一些甚至比特斯拉更先進(jìn)。他們還不能制造一些他們需要的芯片，但正在迅速追趕。如果他們想在2030年有挑戰(zhàn)，他們必須在清單上添加新項(xiàng)目。