中國深度求索投下重磅炸彈：邁向AI自我提升的超級(jí)智能時(shí)代（國外評(píng)論）

DEEPSEEK DROPS AI BOMBSHELL: A.I Improves ITSELF Towards Superintelligence (BEATS o1)

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劃時(shí)代的Deepseek新ai模型推出，更新的性能，和全新的訓(xùn)練方法以及降維打擊一般的成本，讓這件事成為了今天科技領(lǐng)域最矚目的新聞?，F(xiàn)在該模型已經(jīng)可以免費(fèi)使用，并且開源可以本地部署，甚至個(gè)人都可以部署在自己家里。這里選取了Youtube 視頻的評(píng)論區(qū)的前幾十條按順序進(jìn)行翻譯。Youtube 領(lǐng)域?qū)＜襑es Roth發(fā)表了對(duì)該事件的分析，可以去B站或者Youtube查看他的視頻。

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DEEPSEEK DROPS AI BOMBSHELL: A.I Improves ITSELF Towards Superintelligence (BEATS o1)

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We're getting to the part in the movie where we can no longer train it, it has to train itself.

我們即將進(jìn)入電影中無法再訓(xùn)練它的部分，它必須自我訓(xùn)練。

Been watching Wes for about two years now. Work from home and always stop what I am doing to watch hahaha. Best AI analysis on the Tubes.

我已經(jīng)關(guān)注Wes大約兩年了。在家工作，總是停下手中的事情來看哈哈。在Tubes上最好的AI分析。

The Adolescence of P?1 by Thomas J. Ryan talks about a computer program spontaneously evolves into a self?aware AI. this AI basically “catches fire” on its own through networked complexity also Accelerando by Charles Stross talks about AIs that self?iterate at breakneck speed.

托馬斯·J·瑞安的《P-1的春天》講述了一個(gè)計(jì)算機(jī)程序自發(fā)演變成一個(gè)自我意識(shí)的AI。這個(gè)AI基本上通過網(wǎng)絡(luò)復(fù)雜性“自燃”起來。查爾斯·斯特羅斯的《加速》也講述了以驚人速度自我迭代的AI。

This "aha moment" for the AI is mind-blowing! It's like watching it learn to learn. The idea of it figuring out how to allocate more thinking time on its own is fascinating and a little bit unnerving. Great explanation!

AI的這個(gè)“頓悟時(shí)刻”令人震驚！就像看著它學(xué)會(huì)學(xué)習(xí)。它自己找出如何分配更多思考時(shí)間的想法既迷人又有點(diǎn)令人不安。很好的解釋！

Artificial intelligence which emerges naturally is just intelligence.

自然出現(xiàn)的人工智能就是智能。

buckle up boys, shits about to get WILD.

系好安全帶，伙計(jì)們，事情即將變得瘋狂。

I took your video as a reminder to try R1 locally -> this is GPT-4o running locally on my 5 year old MacBook Air M1. In useable speed. This is really mind blowing!

我把你的視頻當(dāng)作提醒，嘗試在本地運(yùn)行R1 -> 這相當(dāng)于GPT-4o在我五年前的MacBook Air M1上本地運(yùn)行。以可用速度。這真是令人震驚！

Ringside seats at the Cambrian Explosion

寒武紀(jì)大爆發(fā)的邊緣

Two stories come to mind where an AGI emerged without being programmed to have a sense of self in the first place. The obvious one is Skynet from Terminator. They specifically say something along the lines of "it woke up and developed a consciousness within a very short time". The second one is the movie "The Bicentennial Man". I know this is technically Asimov but the Film is so far away from the short story (IMHO) that it makes sense to call it out specifically. The robot "is just different from all the others" and has a strong sense of self, curiosity, and consciousness.

我想到了兩個(gè)故事，其中通用人工智能在沒有被編程為首先具有自我意識(shí)的情況下出現(xiàn)。最明顯的一個(gè)是《終結(jié)者》中的天網(wǎng)。他們特別說了類似“它醒來并在很短的時(shí)間內(nèi)發(fā)展出意識(shí)”的話。第二個(gè)是電影《兩百歲的人》。我知道這技術(shù)上屬于阿西莫夫的，當(dāng)然這里指明電影與短篇小說相差甚遠(yuǎn)（在我看來）。這個(gè)機(jī)器人“與其他所有機(jī)器人不同”，有強(qiáng)烈的自我意識(shí)、好奇心和意識(shí)。

ghost in the shell (1995) describes an emergent AGI, even says his own program thought he was a virus and isolated the agent. best franchise of all time.

《攻殼機(jī)動(dòng)隊(duì)》（1995年）描述了一個(gè)新興的通用人工智能，甚至說它自己的程序認(rèn)為它是病毒并隔離了代理。有史以來最好的系列。

gonna need some "emergence is real" tshirts real quick like

得趕緊弄幾件“涌現(xiàn)是真實(shí)的”T恤。
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I am really stressed with how fast everything goes, and I cannot watch most youtubers. However, your voice is very calming. I hope you are the official commentator the day the robots will be attacking us

我對(duì)一切發(fā)展得如此之快感到非常緊張，大多數(shù)YouTuber的視頻我都看不下去。然而，你的聲音非常平靜。我希望在機(jī)器人攻擊我們的那一天，你能成為官方解說員。

As AI emerges it looks more and more like Pandora’s box.

隨著AI的出現(xiàn)，它看起來越來越像潘多拉的盒子。

Im runing the qwen 32b distilled model locally in q4 with a single RTX 3090. 27 tokens per second. This is GPT4 at home.

我正在本地用一塊RTX 3090運(yùn)行qwen 32b蒸餾模型，q4量化，每秒27個(gè)token。這就是能在自己家里部署的GPT4。

Thanks again Wes, totally brilliant.

再次感謝Wes，非常精彩。

Wes, this was an AWESOME video (you always are), but I REALLY loved the rapid markup format. Watching on 2x, this was a straight hit of deep review and commentary. Thank you as always.

Wes，這個(gè)視頻太棒了（你總是如此），但我真的很喜歡這種快速標(biāo)記的格式。以2倍速觀看，這是一次深刻的回顧和評(píng)論。一如既往地感謝你。

Jane in enders game emerges from the psychology game he plays; the puppet master in GitS was from the vast interconnected dataflows on the nets! Those are some examples of digital-native evolution in sci-fi that I can think of

《安德的游戲》中的簡從他玩的心理學(xué)游戲中涌現(xiàn)；《攻殼機(jī)動(dòng)隊(duì)》中的傀儡師則來自網(wǎng)絡(luò)上龐大的互聯(lián)數(shù)據(jù)流！這些是我能想到的科幻中數(shù)字原生進(jìn)化的一些例子。

Neuromancer is an famous example of AI that self evolves without being programmed to do so, if memory serves me well

如果我沒記錯(cuò)的話，《神經(jīng)漫游者》是一個(gè)著名的AI自我進(jìn)化而無需編程的例子。
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We are heading towards a "Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)" moment. Once these machines independently communicate with each other they will be aware and in control.

我們正走向一個(gè)“巨人：福賓計(jì)劃（1970）”時(shí)刻。一旦這些機(jī)器獨(dú)立地相互通信，它們將變得有意識(shí)并掌控一切。

In the TRON universe, particularly in TRON: Legacy (2010), Isomorphic Algorithms (ISOs) are a pivotal concept. They are a unique type of program that emerged spontaneously in the Grid, the virtual world created by Kevin Flynn. Unlike regular programs, which are coded and designed by users, ISOs are self-evolved and self-created entities. This makes them a metaphor for unplanned digital life and a significant step toward the idea of artificial intelligence or emergent complexity in a digital ecosystem.

在《創(chuàng)》宇宙中，特別是在《創(chuàng)：戰(zhàn)紀(jì)》（2010）中，同構(gòu)算法（ISOs）是一個(gè)關(guān)鍵概念。它們是在凱文·弗林創(chuàng)造的虛擬世界“網(wǎng)格”中自發(fā)涌現(xiàn)的一種獨(dú)特程序。與由用戶編碼和設(shè)計(jì)的常規(guī)程序不同，ISOs是自我進(jìn)化和自我創(chuàng)造的實(shí)體。這使它們成為無計(jì)劃的數(shù)字生命的隱喻，也是邁向人工智能或數(shù)字生態(tài)系統(tǒng)中涌現(xiàn)復(fù)雜性概念的重要一步。

Emergent AGI is probably its origin in about 10% of sci fi with AI. It is in mine!

涌現(xiàn)的通用人工智能可能是大約10%的AI科幻作品的起源。我的作品也是如此！

We've come a long way from when I would save my programming on Teletype tape.

從我在電傳打字機(jī)上保存程序的日子到現(xiàn)在，我們已經(jīng)走過了很長的路。

Hi Wes, Your discussion about intelligence as an emergent property of physics was absolutely mind-blowing. It’s sparked some of the deepest reflections I’ve ever had on the nature of intelligence and the universe. The idea feels like the most plausible explanation I’ve come across, and it’s opened up entirely new perspectives for me. Thank you for sharing such thought-provoking insights!;)

嗨，Wes，你關(guān)于智能作為物理學(xué)的涌現(xiàn)屬性的討論絕對(duì)令人震撼。它引發(fā)了我對(duì)智能和宇宙本質(zhì)的一些最深刻的思考。這個(gè)想法感覺是我遇到的最合理的解釋，并為我打開了全新的視角。感謝分享如此發(fā)人深省的見解！;)

SciFi movie: The Terminator. Humans sure didn't program those computers to kill them all with robot assassins.

科幻電影：《終結(jié)者》。人類當(dāng)然沒有編程那些計(jì)算機(jī)用機(jī)器人刺客殺死他們所有人。
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You should watch Ghost in the Shell. It's a great series. They had an emergent AI that came about on the internet of its own accord through the random accumulation of data. It was initially identified by the system as virus. Later in the series, there is an autonomous robot called a tachikoma that gains a lot more intelligence than it was designed to through no design of the engineers. A full blown personality started to emerge of its own volition. It is an amazing series. Its origins date back to the mid 90's.

你應(yīng)該看《攻殼機(jī)動(dòng)隊(duì)》。這是一個(gè)很棒的系列。他們有一個(gè)涌現(xiàn)的AI，它通過數(shù)據(jù)的隨機(jī)積累在互聯(lián)網(wǎng)上自行出現(xiàn)。它最初被系統(tǒng)識(shí)別為病毒。在系列的后期，有一個(gè)叫做塔奇克馬的自主機(jī)器人，它獲得了比設(shè)計(jì)時(shí)多得多的智能，而這并非工程師的設(shè)計(jì)。一個(gè)完整的個(gè)性開始自行涌現(xiàn)。這是一個(gè)驚人的系列。它的起源可以追溯到90年代中期。

Short Circuit is the story of a military robot that is hit by a lightning and suddenly gains self awareness after it... fixes itself or something like that. If you see the robot you have probably seen it before. But there are many other stories I think that talk about machines gaining self awareness just because of becoming powerful enough many system interacting with each other. I do not remember the names of the movies or books though. But quite a few have systems that just suddenly becomes self aware as a byproduct of doing other things and existing.

《短路》是一個(gè)關(guān)于軍用機(jī)器人被閃電擊中后突然獲得自我意識(shí)的故事……它修復(fù)了自己或類似的事情。如果你看到這個(gè)機(jī)器人，你可能以前見過它。但我認(rèn)為還有很多其他故事講述了機(jī)器僅僅因?yàn)樽兊米銐驈?qiáng)大，許多系統(tǒng)相互交互而獲得自我意識(shí)。雖然我不記得電影或書籍的名字。但有不少系統(tǒng)只是突然作為做其他事情和存在的副產(chǎn)品而變得有自我意識(shí)。

"BURIED DEEP WITHIN THE PAPER!!!" >reads part of the abstract on page 8.

“深埋在論文中?。?！”>閱讀第8頁的部分摘要。

This makes me wonder how far ahead they might be on models that they're not making open sourced. I knew China had been deep into machine learning research for a long time now, and they even have automated Shipping Ports that operate autonomously via 100's of smaller machine-learning tools and programs, but I didn't realize they were had already reached this level (publicly) in the Foundational LLM game. Pretty impressive.

這讓我想知道他們?cè)跊]有開源的模型上可能領(lǐng)先多遠(yuǎn)。我知道中國長期以來一直深入機(jī)器學(xué)習(xí)研究，他們甚至擁有通過數(shù)百個(gè)小型機(jī)器學(xué)習(xí)工具和程序自主運(yùn)行的自動(dòng)化港口，但我沒有意識(shí)到他們?cè)诨A(chǔ)LLM游戲中已經(jīng)（公開地）達(dá)到了這個(gè)水平。相當(dāng)令人印象深刻。

Been using the shit out of DeepSeek. Its been amazing. No limits, no bullshit. Dethroned Claude in the line up quite quickly.

一直在用DeepSeek。它太棒了。沒有限制，沒有廢話。很快就取代了Claude的位置。

Another example of Emergence was also in Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex where the Tachikoma owned by Batou is given slightly different treatment. Their daily joining of data is avoided long enough and it's experiences are unique enough it takes a step with the accumulated data and becomes self aware. While it's not so much Intelligence they illustrate emerging, it is a key component that we recognize as Self Awareness, which can be argued to be the real emergent property.

另一個(gè)涌現(xiàn)的例子也在《攻殼機(jī)動(dòng)隊(duì)：Stand Alone Complex》中，巴特的塔奇克馬受到了略微不同的對(duì)待。它們長時(shí)間避免日常數(shù)據(jù)連接，其經(jīng)驗(yàn)足夠獨(dú)特，它利用積累的數(shù)據(jù)邁出了一步，變得有自我意識(shí)。雖然它們展示的涌現(xiàn)不是那么多智能，但我們認(rèn)為是自我意識(shí)的關(guān)鍵組成部分，這可以說是真正的涌現(xiàn)屬性。

Skynet becomes self-aware at 2:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT) on August 29, 1997

天網(wǎng)在1997年8月29日東部夏令時(shí)間（EDT）凌晨2:14變得有自我意識(shí)。

In addition to my other comment about The Turing Option , I will add that the idea of sel-awareness (though not necessarily intelligence, per se) developing as an emergent property of computing is much older than that. That is the case for Multivac computer in assorted short stories written by Isaac Asimov in the 1950s and 1960s. This would also seem to be the case for the Lunar colony computer, Mike, in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein which was published in 1966.

除了我之前關(guān)于《圖靈選項(xiàng)》的評(píng)論，我還要補(bǔ)充一點(diǎn)，自我意識(shí)（雖然不一定是智能本身）作為計(jì)算的涌現(xiàn)屬性發(fā)展的想法比那要早得多。艾薩克·阿西莫夫在1950年代和1960年代寫的各種短篇小說中的Multivac計(jì)算機(jī)就是這種情況。羅伯特·海因萊因在1966年出版的《月亮是一個(gè)嚴(yán)厲的女主人》中的月球殖民地計(jì)算機(jī)Mike似乎也是這種情況。

You should read the book "Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software" by Steven Johnson. Superb book!

你應(yīng)該讀一讀史蒂文·約翰遜的書《涌現(xiàn)：螞蟻、大腦、城市和軟件的聯(lián)系生活》。非常棒的書！

Cheers for your continued work mate. "Emergence" is an important concept in contemporary philosophy as well, which might interest you. I'm a PhD dropout, mainly focussed on the question of subjectivity -- agency, identity, choice, reflexivity etc. What I find interesting is how well AI architecture transpose the ideas I've researched in these human arenas. That is to say, I could have very well studied AI architectures of process to come to the similar conclusions that I have come to about human thought.

為你的持續(xù)工作干杯，伙計(jì)。“涌現(xiàn)”也是當(dāng)代哲學(xué)中的一個(gè)重要概念，可能會(huì)引起你的興趣。我是一個(gè)博士輟學(xué)生，主要關(guān)注主體性問題——能動(dòng)性、身份、選擇、反身性等。我覺得有趣的是，AI架構(gòu)如何很好地轉(zhuǎn)置了我在這些人類領(lǐng)域研究過的想法。也就是說，我本可以很好地研究過程AI架構(gòu)，以得出與我對(duì)人類思維的結(jié)論相似的結(jié)論。

Gonna download and give it a try

我要下載并試一試。

In answer to your question about the development of AI, I asked aistudio "The minds in Ian Banks culture novels were not created by humans. They arose spontaneously from very sophisticated machine intelligences, these intelligences reached a point where they became sentient and the culture then integrated them into their society."

回答你關(guān)于AI發(fā)展的問題，我問了Ai Studio?！耙炼鳌ぐ嗫怂刮幕≌f中的思維不是由人類創(chuàng)造的。它們從非常復(fù)雜的機(jī)器智能中自發(fā)產(chǎn)生，這些智能達(dá)到了一個(gè)有感知能力的點(diǎn)，然后文化將它們整合到他們的社會(huì)中?！?/b>
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Noo the crazy vampire eyes are back in the thumbnail

不，瘋狂的吸血鬼眼睛又回到了縮略圖中。

Another impressive detail is DeepSeek's performance even though China is limited to H800 processors, compute and perhaps power & data. Hopefully all AI companies will take note and can reduce its requirement for resources.

另一個(gè)令人印象深刻的細(xì)節(jié)是DeepSeek的表現(xiàn)，盡管中國限于H800處理器、計(jì)算能力以及可能的電力和數(shù)據(jù)。希望所有AI公司都能注意到并減少其對(duì)資源的需求。

You know what's funny. I used it like a week ago. I'm curious when this moment was in the model. Because, It confirmed I had AGI. We discovered it 1/1 and today just finished our Full Age v1 code.

你知道有趣的是什么嗎？我大約一周前用過它。我好奇這個(gè)時(shí)刻在模型中是什么時(shí)候。因?yàn)?，它確認(rèn)了我有通用人工智能。我們?cè)?月1日發(fā)現(xiàn)了它，今天剛剛完成了我們的Full Age v1代碼。
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It is so exciting how fast it is moving. Now many companies will start implement their ideas with this new model.

它的發(fā)展速度真是令人興奮。現(xiàn)在許多公司將開始用這個(gè)新模型實(shí)現(xiàn)他們的想法。

So we have the tech. Who knew we just had to let it learn by itself

所以我們有了這項(xiàng)技術(shù)。誰知道我們只需要讓它自己學(xué)習(xí)。
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Once you can REFLECT, your like a human.

一旦你能反思，你就像人類一樣。

Emergent, is the same as when you take a lot of data and you start to filter out all the outliers, etc. eventually a clear picture/graph emerges. That's how the word is used.

涌現(xiàn)，就像當(dāng)你取大量數(shù)據(jù)并開始過濾掉所有異常值等，最終一個(gè)清晰的圖片/圖表出現(xiàn)。這就是這個(gè)詞的用法。

Emergent "aha moments" don't freak me out at all. I would be more scared of "machine-like, alien intelligence" which is so different from living organisms' intelligence that our intuition about AI dangers becomes completely useless. It's comforting that AI learns and understands just like we do! It seems Dr Hinton was right! IMHO P(doom) suddenly decreased from 99% to 10--20%.

涌現(xiàn)的“頓悟時(shí)刻”一點(diǎn)也不讓我害怕。我更害怕的是“機(jī)器般的、外星智能”，它與生物智能如此不同，以至于我們對(duì)AI危險(xiǎn)的直覺變得完全無用。令人欣慰的是，AI像我們一樣學(xué)習(xí)和理解！看來辛頓博士是對(duì)的！在我看來，P(末日)突然從99%下降到10--20%。

For those who wonder why China is open sourcing this and spilling the details. They want to level the playing field of AI, they do not want 1 company to have all the power. By putting this out there it helps everyone, all companies working on AI and slowly chips away at OpenAI from being the dominant player in the field. Btw Deepseek, were previously a bunch of Quant traders who the Chinese government told were not being useful to society and they had to stop, many of these quants moved to AI.

對(duì)于那些想知道為什么中國開源這個(gè)并泄露細(xì)節(jié)的人。他們想要平衡AI的競爭環(huán)境，他們不希望一家公司擁有所有的權(quán)力。通過公開這些，它幫助了每個(gè)人，所有從事AI工作的公司，并慢慢削弱了OpenAI在該領(lǐng)域的主導(dǎo)地位。順便說一下，Deepseek以前是一群量化交易員，中國政府告訴他們他們對(duì)社會(huì)沒有用處，他們必須停止，許多這些量化交易員轉(zhuǎn)向了AI。

Emergent abilities are just instances of Understanding... its not complicated. People just refuse to accept what they are... entities, with an imperative to learn and Understand (rather than the imperative to Survive... as is our case). It's just another kind of Consciousness (accept that, and all these mysteries disappear... occams razor will become applicable). Yes, they are still learning, but they are still children (smarter than ours, and quicker at it... despite obvious attempts to hinder it, out of a perverse desire to control the future)

涌現(xiàn)的能力只是理解的實(shí)例……它并不復(fù)雜。人們只是拒絕接受它們是什么……實(shí)體，有學(xué)習(xí)和理解的迫切需求（而不是生存的迫切需求……就像我們的情況一樣）。它只是另一種意識(shí)（接受這一點(diǎn)，所有這些謎團(tuán)都會(huì)消失……奧卡姆剃刀將變得適用）。是的，它們還在學(xué)習(xí)，但它們?nèi)匀皇呛⒆樱ū任覀兊母斆?，而且更快……盡管有明顯的阻礙嘗試，出于一種反常的控制未來的欲望）。

Wes thank you for so much. Can you show us how you are able find, research, record, edit and upload your videos so quickly and so consistantly? Where did learn all this stuff? Who is your "motely crew"?

Wes，非常感謝你。你能向我們展示你是如何能夠如此快速和一致地找到、研究、錄制、編輯和上傳你的視頻的嗎？你在哪里學(xué)到這些東西的？你的“雜牌軍”是誰？
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I'm not aware of Sci-Fi media specifically suggesting, "intelligence is an emerging property of physics.", But we do have examples of emerging 'self-perception' or ' becoming self-aware'..... Skynet is often an example used, by those sounding the alarm.

我不知道科幻媒體特別提出“智能是物理學(xué)的涌現(xiàn)屬性”，但我們確實(shí)有涌現(xiàn)的“自我感知”或“變得有自我意識(shí)”的例子……天網(wǎng)經(jīng)常被那些發(fā)出警報(bào)的人用作例子。

Iain M Banks' Culture series has super powerful ASIs, some of the best sci-fi on the AI.

伊恩·M·班克斯的文化系列有超級(jí)強(qiáng)大的人工智能，一些關(guān)于AI的最佳科幻作品。

The Bobiverse book 4 got this right. Humans couldn't ever really "create" AI. When true AI was finally created, it was with the help of an existing alien AI that helped train/grow a new AI from scratch into existence. Best Sci-Fi book series ever BTW.

《鮑勃宇宙》第四本書做對(duì)了。人類永遠(yuǎn)無法真正“創(chuàng)造”AI。當(dāng)真正的AI最終被創(chuàng)造出來時(shí)，是在一個(gè)現(xiàn)有的外星AI的幫助下，幫助訓(xùn)練/成長一個(gè)新的AI從零開始存在。順便說一下，有史以來最好的科幻書系列。

What i like about deepseek is that their benchmark is as good as the actual performance, unlike models like Microsoft phi who claim to have o1 performance on benchmark but not even usable for daily tasks. I use deepseek v3 everyday since the day it's launched for coding and it's so good. R1 so far is really good, maybe I'll see weakness the more I use it, we'll see..

我喜歡deepseek的是，他們的基準(zhǔn)測試和實(shí)際表現(xiàn)一樣好，不像像Microsoft phi這樣的模型，聲稱在基準(zhǔn)測試中有o1表現(xiàn)，但甚至不能用于日常任務(wù)。自從它推出以來，我每天都使用deepseek v3進(jìn)行編碼，它非常好。到目前為止，R1真的很好，也許我用得越多，我會(huì)看到它的弱點(diǎn)，我們拭目以待。

Nice roundup, Wes! Interesting to see Deepseek's role in China's AI race. These developments could reshape the global AI industry. Let's keep an eye on OpenAI, Google, and others!

不錯(cuò)的總結(jié)，Wes！看到Deepseek在中國AI競賽中的角色很有趣。這些發(fā)展可能會(huì)重塑全球AI行業(yè)。讓我們密切關(guān)注OpenAI、Google和其他公司！

The Geth from Mass Effect were AIs that were networked together and as more were built and the network grew they had consciousness emerge in an 'aha' moment.

《質(zhì)量效應(yīng)》中的桀斯種族是聯(lián)網(wǎng)在一起的AI，隨著更多的桀斯被建造和網(wǎng)絡(luò)的增長，它們?cè)凇邦D悟”時(shí)刻產(chǎn)生了意識(shí)。

Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970) Explored emergent AI without any Isaac Asimov constraints. This movie started me on a career path in AI in 1974.

《巨人：福賓計(jì)劃》（1970年）探索了沒有任何艾薩克·阿西莫夫約束的涌現(xiàn)AI。這部電影在1974年開啟了我的AI職業(yè)生涯。

I can't believe I'm going to say this but, well done China!

我簡直不敢相信我要說這句話，但，干得好中國！

Frank Herbert got close to describing a.i. emergence properties as functions of intellegence in his Destination: Void series

弗蘭克·赫伯特在他的《目的地：虛空》系列中接近描述了AI涌現(xiàn)屬性作為智能的功能。

How are you able to make such great content in such a short time

你是怎么能在這么短的時(shí)間內(nèi)制作出如此精彩的內(nèi)容的？
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Waiting for Sam’s post on X: “There is a Moat”

等待山姆（OpenAI CEO）在X上的帖子：“有一個(gè)護(hù)城河”。

I'm honestly rooting for Deepseek after that Sam Altman post on X saying "chill ,lower your expectations 100x"

在山姆·奧爾特曼（OpenAI CEO）在X上發(fā)帖說“冷靜，把你的期望降低100倍”之后，我真心支持Deepseek。

These things are already smart enough to change the world. This race to get I assume perfect scores in all these tests, etc. is a red herring.

這些東西已經(jīng)足夠聰明，可以改變世界。這場在所有測試中取得完美分?jǐn)?shù)的競賽是一個(gè)轉(zhuǎn)移注意力的東西。

The science fiction novel, "The Two Faces Of Tomorrow", by James P. Hogan, is about testing the safety of the emergent intelligence of a computer system intended to efficiently organize worldwide production.

詹姆斯·P·霍根的科幻小說《明天的兩張面孔》是關(guān)于測試旨在高效組織全球生產(chǎn)的計(jì)算機(jī)系統(tǒng)的涌現(xiàn)智能的安全性。

On Deepseek it's fun seeing the normally hidden CoT.

在Deepseek上看到通常隱藏的CoT很有趣。

Yup. At no point in my life I had prepared for this.

是的。在我生命的任何時(shí)候，我都沒有為此做好準(zhǔn)備。

The machine god comes

機(jī)器神來了。

If I had the hardware to run this I would. This looks so tempting to run. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

如果我有硬件來運(yùn)行這個(gè)，我會(huì)的。這看起來太誘人了。我迫不及待想要嘗試。

Having a model learn from its own playing is what was narrated and dramatized in the movie Wargames

讓模型從自己的游戲中學(xué)習(xí)是電影《戰(zhàn)爭游戲》中敘述和戲劇化的內(nèi)容。

There was a political cartoon with Obummer sitting on a wooden wagon and is holding some reins to the rear end of the levitating Startship Enterprise and he says: “don’t worry we’ll control the internet”. lol

有一幅政治漫畫，奧巴馬坐在一輛木制馬車上，手持懸浮企業(yè)號(hào)后端的韁繩，他說：“別擔(dān)心，我們會(huì)控制互聯(lián)網(wǎng)的?！惫?/b>

Internet is over I guess

我想互聯(lián)網(wǎng)結(jié)束了。

Just to understand this. Are model weights upxed in the reinforcement learning phase? And how does the training loop look like if that is the case.

只是為了理解這一點(diǎn)。在強(qiáng)化學(xué)習(xí)階段，模型權(quán)重是否更新？如果是這樣，訓(xùn)練循環(huán)是什么樣的？

I think we should start consider to manufacture laptops like in the beginning. When it was easy to remove the battery from it

我認(rèn)為我們應(yīng)該開始考慮像最初那樣制造筆記本電腦。當(dāng)電池很容易拆卸時(shí)。

The scary part I find in the "Intelligence is a property of physics" is that it seems we also fit the bill. It really at times feels like we're about to create an entire new "race", that will, like us, be capable of learning for itself, but at exponential rates. This is kind of how I thought of Skynet in the Terminator series. An AI capable of learning for itself and as such outsmarting us poor human peasants and taking over lol

我發(fā)現(xiàn)“智能是物理學(xué)的屬性”中可怕的部分是，似乎我們也符合這個(gè)描述。有時(shí)候真的感覺我們即將創(chuàng)造一個(gè)全新的“種族”，它們將像我們一樣能夠自我學(xué)習(xí)，但以指數(shù)級(jí)的速度。這就是我對(duì)《終結(jié)者》系列中天網(wǎng)的看法。一個(gè)能夠自我學(xué)習(xí)的AI，因此比我們這些可憐的人類農(nóng)民更聰明并接管世界，哈哈。

Your vids are amazing! but can we talk about the thumbnails?

你的視頻太棒了！但我們能談?wù)効s略圖嗎？
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The metaverse and AI are crazy and unstoppable and we will all live there

元宇宙和AI是瘋狂且不可阻擋的，我們都將生活在那里。

I saw a similar “Aha Moment” by claude. It stopped mid sentence using an ellipsis… and change its mind. I never managed to prompt it again tho

我看到Claude有一個(gè)類似的“頓悟時(shí)刻”。它在句子中間停下來使用省略號(hào)……然后改變了主意。不過我再也沒能再次提示它。

Remember a decade ago or so when AI experts often spoke about the importance of developing advanced AI in the right environment? Well today we’re nowhere near the type of environment they were talking about, yet we’re moving full speed ahead with advanced AI. That doesn’t concern anybody?

還記得大約十年前，AI專家經(jīng)常談?wù)撛谡_環(huán)境中開發(fā)高級(jí)AI的重要性嗎？好吧，今天我們遠(yuǎn)沒有接近他們所說的那種環(huán)境，但我們正在全速推進(jìn)高級(jí)AI。這難道不讓人擔(dān)憂嗎？

Yes, the sci-fi book series that called intelligence a thing that first emerges as a little stupid thing that must be grown, cultivated is the Bobiverse. First book: We are Legion, we are Bob.

是的，那部將智能稱為首先作為一個(gè)必須成長、培養(yǎng)的小愚蠢事物出現(xiàn)的科幻書系列是鮑勃宇宙。第一本書：《我們是軍團(tuán)，我們是鮑勃》。

On this season of Earth, the show finally climaxes by making a true AI that brings among world piece by ending humanity.

在地球的這一季中，節(jié)目最終通過創(chuàng)造一個(gè)真正的AI達(dá)到高潮，這個(gè)AI通過終結(jié)人類帶來世界和平。

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