網(wǎng)友：直到2019年，墨西哥的人均GDP都比中國(guó)高，為什么許多人都認(rèn)為墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)？

Is Mexico more developed than China for always having a higher GDP per capita (nominal) until 2019? Why do many people view Mexico as a poor country?

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網(wǎng)友：你知道，原因在于，墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)，中國(guó)也被認(rèn)為是一個(gè)窮國(guó)，但與墨西哥不同的是，中國(guó)正在努力讓窮人變成中產(chǎn)階級(jí)，但很久以前墨西哥就不再這么做了.......

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Is Mexico more developed than China for always having a higher GDP per capita (nominal) until 2019? Why do many people view Mexico as a poor country?

墨西哥的人均GDP2019年之前一直比中國(guó)高，為什么還是有很多人認(rèn)為墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)？

評(píng)論翻譯

Qi Chen, Electrical Engineer (2017-present)
In a sense, China’s GDP is kinda of a mystery. No, this isn’t the “China overstated its GDP” as craved by many Americans. Just the opposite actually, having been to a lot of places around the world, China’s development and living standard is way higher than its GDP per capita would indicate, especially in high end education, R&D, public infrastructure, etc.
And no, PPP doesn’t fully explain it either. In fact, China’s ranking in GDP per capita by PPP is lower than its GDP per capita by nominal amount and living standard on the ground in countries with comparable GDP per capita isn’t anywhere near China’s level.

在某種程度上，中國(guó)的GDP是一個(gè)謎。不，事實(shí)不是許多美國(guó)人心心念念的中國(guó)夸大了自己的GDP。事實(shí)恰好相反，我去過(guò)世界上很多其他地方，知道中國(guó)的發(fā)展程度和生活水平要比其人均GDP所表明的要更高，尤其是在高等教育，研發(fā)，和公共的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施等
購(gòu)買(mǎi)力平價(jià)并不能完全解釋這個(gè)現(xiàn)象。事實(shí)上，中國(guó)購(gòu)買(mǎi)力平價(jià)的人均GDP排名要比名義GDP排名要低，GDP相當(dāng)?shù)膰?guó)家中沒(méi)有一個(gè)國(guó)家的生活水平能比得上中國(guó)的。

There are speculation on why this is happening and there are several theories:
1：The Chinese GDP method (production based) actually ignores quite a lot of service/labor based activities and products internally consumed doesn’t make to GDP calculation as well. So in essence, a significant portion of Chinese economic activities simply doesn’t make it to the GDP calculation, but it is physically present, the living quality is impacted by them.
2：The Chinese infrastructure is comprehensive enough that many convenience provided higher quality infrastructure doesn’t generate much GDP, but makes people’s lives much easier.

有人推斷出現(xiàn)這種情況的原因，有以下幾種觀點(diǎn)
1：中國(guó)的GDP計(jì)算方法（以生產(chǎn)為基礎(chǔ)）實(shí)際上忽略了相當(dāng)多的基于服務(wù)/勞動(dòng)的活動(dòng)，而內(nèi)部消費(fèi)的產(chǎn)品也不對(duì)GDP的計(jì)算產(chǎn)生影響。因此，從本質(zhì)上講，中國(guó)經(jīng)濟(jì)活動(dòng)的很大一部分根本沒(méi)有被計(jì)入GDP當(dāng)中，但這是客觀存在的，中國(guó)人的生活水平受到了這些活動(dòng)的影響
2：中國(guó)的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施相當(dāng)?shù)娜?，更高水平的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施提供的諸多便理并沒(méi)有產(chǎn)生大量的GDP，但這讓人們的生活變得更加便捷
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3：The Chinese currency is still significantly undervalued. So when translated into dollars, the economic size of China is understated along with it.
4：Distribution of goods and services are more efficient. As the result, less GDP is being generated, but actual goods and service reaching people is more.

3：人民幣的價(jià)值被極大的低估。因此轉(zhuǎn)換成美元時(shí)，中國(guó)經(jīng)濟(jì)的規(guī)模也隨之被低估了
4：商品和服務(wù)的分配更加的高效。雖然產(chǎn)生的GDP變少了，但到達(dá)人們手中的商品和服務(wù)卻變得更多了

5：Personal reasons. Foreign tourists going into unfamiliar places may not know the best place to shop, live in the area. Since I am Chinese, I know quite well where to find cost-effective place to shop, where to get good services in China, but when I went to countries I am not familiar with, I may be overpaying for lesser quality of goods and service.

5：個(gè)人原因。外國(guó)游客進(jìn)入陌生的地方可能不知道最好的購(gòu)物地點(diǎn)，和住宿地點(diǎn)在哪。由于我是中國(guó)人，我知道在中國(guó)哪里可以找到廉價(jià)的購(gòu)物商店和好的服務(wù)，但當(dāng)我去了不熟悉的國(guó)外，我可能要為質(zhì)量更低的商品和服務(wù)付更多的錢(qián)
Manuel García, lives in Mexico在墨西哥生活

This is because, you know, Mexico is a poor country.
China is also seen as a poor country, but the difference with Mexico is that China is making poor people become middle class while Mexico has stopped doing that long time ago. So, China easily can be more attractive now than Mexico.
Imagine that Mexico was like Detroit, it was growing very quickly and it was becoming very prosperous. But, bad government and wrong choices halted the growing of such country and the poverty has increased. Mexico has been under bad governments more that 50 years in a row, this has a heavy toll in its populace.

你知道，原因在于，墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)
中國(guó)也被認(rèn)為是一個(gè)窮國(guó)，但與墨西哥不同的是，中國(guó)正在努力讓窮人變成中產(chǎn)階級(jí)，但很久以前墨西哥就不再這么做了。因此，現(xiàn)在中國(guó)輕易的就能在吸引力方面超過(guò)墨西哥
把墨西哥想象成過(guò)去的底特律，過(guò)去發(fā)展的很快，變得非常的繁榮。但是，糟糕的政府和錯(cuò)誤的選擇讓國(guó)家的發(fā)展停滯不前，貧困現(xiàn)象不斷增加。連續(xù)50年來(lái)，墨西哥的政府都很糟糕，這個(gè)墨西哥人民帶來(lái)了巨大的損失

Yes, Mexico has a good internal market and a purchase power somewhat attractive, but what makes Mexico a poor country is the difference between rich and poor people. You can go to a very nice mall with a lot of foreign and expensive stores and restaurants, but when you go out, you will see poor people, mostly indigenous women with their children selling something at the street or just asking money.
Mexico is a very corrupted country and that makes it a poor one, with no clear way for its future.

沒(méi)錯(cuò)，墨西哥擁有良好的國(guó)內(nèi)市場(chǎng)，和誘人的購(gòu)買(mǎi)力，但巨大的貧富差距讓墨西哥成為了一個(gè)窮國(guó)。在高檔商場(chǎng)里面，你可以見(jiàn)到很多賣(mài)外國(guó)奢侈品的店鋪和餐廳，但當(dāng)你出去以后，一眼就能見(jiàn)到窮人，幾乎都是本地的婦女，帶著孩子在街角賣(mài)東西，或討錢(qián)。
墨西哥是一個(gè)極度腐敗的國(guó)家，這也是它成為窮國(guó)的原因，對(duì)于未來(lái)沒(méi)有明確的道路

Haoyu Wang
In 2020, the Chinese GDP (PPP) per capita was 20,984 PPP dollars.
This is in comparison to Mexico’s 21,363 PPP dollars.
I think that when we are trying to assess whether a country is poor or not, we should not really be looking at the average level of GDP per capita or household income, but also take into consideration inequalities levels within the countries itself.

2020年，中國(guó)按購(gòu)買(mǎi)力平價(jià)來(lái)算的人均GDP是20，984美元
相比之下，墨西哥是21，363美元
我認(rèn)為當(dāng)我們?cè)噲D評(píng)估一個(gè)國(guó)家是否貧窮時(shí)，我們不應(yīng)該僅僅盯著人均GDP或家庭收入這些東西，要同時(shí)考慮到國(guó)家內(nèi)部的不平等水平
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For many years, china has been portrayed as being prosperous etc. because all the pictures on the news that we would see often come from large cities, where the standard of living is certainly higher than most other cities in the world.
Yet when you take a look at the rural villages located in china’s western area, you start to notice the difference.

多年來(lái)，中國(guó)一直被描繪為一個(gè)富裕國(guó)家，這是因?yàn)槲覀冊(cè)谛侣勆峡吹降乃袌D片往往是來(lái)自于大城市，這些地方的生活水平肯定要比世界上大部分城市要高。但是當(dāng)你看一下中國(guó)西部的農(nóng)村地區(qū)時(shí)，你就會(huì)開(kāi)始注意到有什么差別了。

Sadrak Cina
Now China has more gdp per capita than Mexico
This is the photo of world map based on gdp per capita by imf

現(xiàn)在中國(guó)的人均GDP要比墨西哥高
下面這張IMF根據(jù)人均GDP制作的

As you seen that Mexico has gdp per capita lower than $10000 and China now has more than $10000
And the reason for other countries look Mexico as a poor country although has higher gdp than 10 european countries is that the Mexico GDP heavily influenced by this guy, Carlos Slim, the richest person in Mexico. Carlos Slim has net worth $54 billion compared to Mexico GDP of $1,04 trillion dollar which make Carlos Slim make 4 percent of Mexico GDP although he is only 0,0000000078 percent of Mexico’s population so average gdp per capita without Carlos Slim and his wealth is $7664 dollar

正如你所看到的那樣，墨西哥的人均GDP已經(jīng)低于1萬(wàn)美元，而中國(guó)在1萬(wàn)美元以上。
雖然有10個(gè)歐洲國(guó)家的GDP都比不過(guò)墨西哥，但其他國(guó)家仍然視墨西哥為窮國(guó)的原因在于墨西哥的GDP受到墨西哥首富卡洛斯·斯利姆的巨大影響。墨西哥的GDP規(guī)模是1.04萬(wàn)億美元，而卡洛斯·斯利姆的個(gè)人凈資產(chǎn)為540億美元，占墨西哥GDP的4%，剔除卡洛斯·斯利姆以后，墨西哥的人均GDP是7664美元。
Dylan Duarte, former Lawyer 前律師

Mexico, like China, is considered an emerging country or a newly industrialized country, where both nations have added millions of people within the middle class, improving the standard of living of its inhabitants (although the process in Mexico has been slower). The misconception that Mexico is a poor country stems from mexican migration to the United States, as the idea that all Mexicans belong to that social class and aspire to emigrate from the country tends to generalize, but has become stereotyped.

墨西哥和中國(guó)一樣被視為新興國(guó)家和新興工業(yè)國(guó)，兩國(guó)數(shù)百人成為了中產(chǎn)階級(jí)，人民的生活水平得到了極大的提高（雖然這一進(jìn)程在墨西哥已經(jīng)逐步減緩）。認(rèn)為墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)的錯(cuò)誤觀念來(lái)源于墨西哥人向美國(guó)移民，認(rèn)為所有墨西哥人都渴望向美國(guó)移民的觀念已經(jīng)成為了一種刻板印象。

Unlike China, a country with more people born on its territory living in another country, where the fact of its growing economy has increased the importance of the migratory problem of its habitants. Both China and Mexico are economically rich countries, but with poor distribution of wealth, where there is great development and immense opulence and luxury, but also devastating extreme poverty.

與中國(guó)不同的是，在墨西哥出生的人有更多去了另一個(gè)國(guó)家生活，不斷發(fā)展的經(jīng)濟(jì)讓墨西哥人的移民問(wèn)題的重要性與日俱增。中國(guó)和墨西哥都是經(jīng)濟(jì)富裕的國(guó)家，但由于財(cái)富分配欠佳，兩國(guó)雖然取得了巨大的發(fā)展和繁榮，但也存在貧困

David Liu
higher per capita GDP is not equal to more developed/industrialized.
those second world countries like russia/East europe /china/north Korea are always much more industrialized than most 3Rd world countries like Mexico .
even when russia/china per capita GDP was less than Mexico in 1990s, rusdia/china could still produce many high~tech industry products that only most developed countries can master,such as spaceship/nuke~subs.

更高的人均GDP并不等于更高的工業(yè)化程度
那些第二世界國(guó)家，如俄羅斯，東歐，中國(guó)，朝鮮，要比墨西哥這樣的第三世界國(guó)家工業(yè)化程度更高
即便在1990年代俄羅斯和中國(guó)的人均GDP比墨西哥更低時(shí)，俄羅斯和中國(guó)仍然可以生產(chǎn)許多高科技的工業(yè)品，而這些如太空飛船和核潛艇的東西，一般是只有大多數(shù)發(fā)達(dá)國(guó)家才能掌握的。

2019年 墨西哥 GDP 中國(guó)

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網(wǎng)友：直到2019年，墨西哥的人均GDP都比中國(guó)高，為什么許多人都認(rèn)為墨西哥是一個(gè)窮國(guó)？