網(wǎng)友討論：2023年越南會超過菲律賓，馬來西亞和新加坡嗎？
Will Vietnam SURPASS Philippines, Singapore and Malaysia by 2023?
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網(wǎng)友：到2030年，印尼憑借人口優(yōu)勢依然會是東盟最大的經(jīng)濟體。馬來西亞和泰國會爭奪第二和第三的寶座，而越南和菲律賓會爭奪第四和第五，我認為新加坡會是第六，但他們依然是東盟人均gdp最高的國家，而馬來西亞100%有可能會成為高收入國家，到時他們的人均gdp會達到20000美元
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網(wǎng)友討論：2023年越南會超過菲律賓，馬來西亞和新加坡嗎？
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Go Vietnam, Go Phillipines, Go Thailand, Go Malaysia. Join the G20 club.
越南加油，菲律賓加油，泰國加油，馬來西亞加油，一起加入G20俱樂部。
Just Vietnam have potential to dominate Asean tbh.
老實說只有越南有主導(dǎo)東盟的潛力
Then its not G20 anymore but G25.
到時候就不是G20了，而是G25
If Philippines can solve the problem of energy, we can easily surpass our ASEAN neighbor .
如果菲律賓可以解決能源問題的話，那么我們將可以輕易超過我們的東盟鄰國
By 2030, Indonesia will still be largest economy in ASEAN just by the their population. Malaysia and Thailand will compete for #2 and #3. Vietnam and Philippines will compete for #4 and #5. Singapore I think will become 6th, but, they will still be the richest by GDP per capita and Malaysia will 100% become pretty high income then at US$20,000!
到2030年，印尼憑借人口優(yōu)勢依然會是東盟最大的經(jīng)濟體。馬來西亞和泰國會爭奪第二和第三的寶座，而越南和菲律賓會爭奪第四和第五，我認為新加坡會是第六，但他們依然是東盟人均gdp最高的國家，而馬來西亞100%有可能會成為高收入國家，到時他們的人均gdp會達到20000美元
? @Jonathan De Vera Yeah, the Philippines has great potential, but we are so far left behind we need to strive more than the other ASEAN members. Remember that in the 1970s, the Philippines was only second to Japan in terms of industrialization and infrastructure in Asia; if that progress had been sustained, the Philippines would have been included in the G20 long ago.
是的，菲律賓擁有巨大的潛力，但我們現(xiàn)在遠遠落后，我們需要比東盟其他國家更加努力。要知道在上世紀70年代，菲律賓在基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施和工業(yè)化方面僅次于亞洲的日本，如果這個進程可以持續(xù)的話，那么菲律賓早就進入二十國集團了。
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It's good to see all ASEAN countries grow. We're still far behind developed countries.
很高興看到東盟所有國家都在發(fā)展，我們依然還遠遠落后于發(fā)達國家
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Hope all Asean countries develop fast so that the people prosper. The world's average GDP per capita is 12,000 USD/year while ASEAN countries other than Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia have high gdp, the rest are low, even Thailand is only 7,800 USD/year
希望東盟所有國家都能取得快速的發(fā)展，讓人民富裕起來。世界年人均gdp是12000美元，而東盟國家中除新加坡，文萊和馬來西亞擁有較高的人均gdp以外，其他國家的都很低，甚至連泰國的人均gdp也只有7800美元
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You are right! We need push Thailand - now 7500 to 12,000 USD/y as soon as posible, then Indonesia now 4400, Vietnam is 4000 and then Philipin 3700-3800 USD. Thailand need growth 5% yearly at least, meanwhile other need 6-7% growth rate. 2030 the world's average GDP per capita will be 14000 -14500 USD at least.
你說得對。我們需要盡快將泰國的人均gdp從現(xiàn)在的7500美元提高到12000美元，印尼現(xiàn)在的人均是4400美元，越南是4000美元，菲律賓是3700-3800美元，我們需要盡快將這些國家的人均gdp都提高到12000美元。泰國的年增長率至少要達到5%，與此同時其他國家的增長率需要達到6%到7%。2030年世界人均gdp將至少在14000美元和14500美元之間。
@Truong Thi Goodyear hhhh its not easy for big country like Indonesia
這對印尼這樣的大國來說并不容易
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Indonesia will put down vietnam under the feet.
印尼會把越南踩在腳下
Vietnam don't need surpass indonesia..vietnam just surpass Indonesia football..hahahahaha
越南不需要在經(jīng)濟上超過印尼，越南只需要在足球方面超過印尼就可以了，哈哈
@John brookhaven just football doesn't represent the country. Go and Surpassing militery, economic, infrastructure, salary, currency, so that I respect . Nowadays vietnam still not our level.
足球不能代表一個國家。要想讓我尊重越南的話，就想辦法在軍事，經(jīng)濟，基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施，收入，貨幣等領(lǐng)域超過印尼。現(xiàn)在的越南和印尼依然不是同一個級別的存在。
@Nanak Badog indonesia has a large and poor population like india and bangladesh hahaha
印尼和印度孟加拉一樣，窮人數(shù)量非常的多哈哈
@Nanak Badog small country does not mean that it cannot catch up with big countries. Look at South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Switzerland, they are much better than big Indonesia lol
小國并不一定就追不上大國?？纯错n國，新加坡，臺灣地區(qū)和瑞士，他們要比大國印尼好多了哈哈
GDP per capita is hard to improve in a country with a big population. Even China, the 2nd biggest economy in the world, is only sitting at 10,850 USD a year in GDP per capita, while India, the 5th biggest economy, is the worst in terms of GDP per capita, at 2,000 USD.
人口多的國家很難提高人均gdp。即便是世界第二大經(jīng)濟體的中國人均gdp也只有10850美元，而印度作為世界第五大經(jīng)濟體，人均gdp只有2000美元，是人均gdp最低的國家。
The most important is that most of ASEAN are growing faster, either PH or VT will be second biggest economy by the next 5 years.
最重要的是大部分東盟國家正在更快的發(fā)展，未來五年東盟第二大經(jīng)濟體要么是菲律賓要么是越南
Can other ASEAN countries could surpass Indonesia?
其他東盟國家能超過印尼嗎？
@Me Virgo every country have great potential .. so its possible
每個國家都有著巨大的潛力，所以是有可能的
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@Me Virgo Indonesia is the 4th most Populated country in the world with vast archipelagic country with so many resources Indonesia is nowhere near the level of Malaysia or Singapore even Thailand
印尼是世界第四人口大國，是一個巨大的群島國家，擁有很多的資源，但即便如此，印尼依然遠遠落后馬來西亞，新加坡，甚至泰國
Yes be the second place, but surpass indonesia are impossible. Indonesia population are so big, and very rich in natural resources
是的，越南和菲律賓有可能會成為東盟的第二大經(jīng)濟體，但他們不可能超過印尼，因為印尼擁有龐大的人口和豐富的自然資源。
From Vietnam, the Vietnamese are happy to catch up with other fellow ASEAN members and hope Myanmar will come back our Asean economic race. Cambodia, Laos, Timor Leste must work hard to catch up others
我來自越南，越南人很高興可以趕上其他的東盟成員國，希望緬甸可以回歸正常，重新參與到東盟國家的經(jīng)濟競賽中。柬埔寨，老撾，東帝汶必須努力追上其他國家
So sad the Philippines always the poorest, Cambodia is going up so fast
遺憾的是，菲律賓總是最窮的，柬埔寨現(xiàn)在發(fā)展的很快
Timor Leste is not ASEAN member and it should never be. Most Indonesian people never want TL to be accepted into ASEAN, we need TL to stay poor so they will depend on Indonesia in all aspect forever.
東帝汶不是東盟國家，而且永遠不應(yīng)該成為東盟國家。大部分印尼人不希望東帝汶被東盟國家接納，我們需要東帝汶保持貧窮，這樣他們才會在各個方面都要依賴印尼
@Anggita Putri why you hate TL?
為什么你討厭東帝汶？
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@my Lord she is indonesian she didnt accept Timor Leste's independence from the Indonesia lol
她是印尼人，她不接受東帝汶從印尼獨立出去，哈哈
there is no competition between us, let's work together, and rise together, hold hands tightly and move forward, love from Indonesia
我們之間沒有競爭，讓我們一起努力，一起崛起，緊握雙手向前進，來自印尼的愛
I personally think Vietnam is the most hard working country in ASEAN...
love from Indonesia
我個人認為越南是東盟國家中最勤勞的
來自印尼的愛
you are right, but I think the Chinese is harder working people.
你說的對，但我認為中國人更加努力
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@Hai Nguyen Yea... But China is not in ASEAN
是的，但中國不是東盟國家
Singapore is rich already
I think vietnam,Indonesia and Malaysia are next...
Thailand and Philippine are go downhill
新加坡已經(jīng)成為富裕國家
我認為印尼，越南和馬來西亞會成為下一個富裕國家
泰國和菲律賓在走下坡路
Malaysia may catch up with Thailand too. Thailand population is 2.2x of Malaysia but the GDP is only 25% higher than Malaysia. So, Malaysia could catch up to surpass Thailand in the next 8 - 10 years.
馬來西亞或許也會追上泰國。泰國人口是馬來西亞的2.2倍，但gdp只比馬來西亞高25%。所以馬來西亞可能會在未來八到十年內(nèi)追上泰國。
@Lex the GDP is base on the population. The bigger population larger the GDP can be in the future.
GDP基于人口，未來人口越多，gdp就會越大
@Lex within 8-10 years, Thailand's Population will go higher and higher. How can you surpass it?
未來八到十年，泰國的人口會越來越多，你們要如何超過他
@AREVALO, Jun Carlo G. Isn't that the same for Malaysia where population and productivity also grow? Malaysia is 2.2x less population than Thailand but its GDP is only 25% less than Thailand. So, yes, Malaysia can surpass Thailand GDP.
馬來西亞的人口和生產(chǎn)力不也同樣在增長嗎？泰國人口是馬來西亞的2.2倍，但gdp總量只比馬來西亞高25%。所以馬來西亞的gdp是可以超過泰國的。
Vietnam's future is super super promising!! I see them as the new Asean's South Korea. Love From Indonesia
越南擁有超級光明的未來。我認為越南就是東盟的韓國。來自印尼的愛
Hope Philipines will grow fast again as our countries still poorer than other countries.
希望菲律賓可以再次取得快速發(fā)展，因為我們國家依然比其他國家窮。
I still have high hope for Philippines. Lets keep working hard
我仍然對菲律賓抱有很高的期望。讓我們繼續(xù)努力
All the ASEAN countries, except Singapore, will eventually get to the middle income trap unless they have their own innovations to compete with coutries like China, Korea and Japan. Vietnam' GDP might grow fast while Malaysia and Thailand are waiting for them at the trap. What's interesting is not who will surpass who but who will get out of the trap first.
除新加坡以外，所有的東盟國家最后都會陷入中等收入陷阱，除非他們有自己的創(chuàng)新，可以和中國韓國日本等國展開競爭。越南的gdp或許可以獲得快速的增長，但馬來西亞和泰國正在中等收入陷阱里面等著他們。有趣的不是誰會超過誰，而是誰可以最先從中等收入陷阱里爬出來。
Exactly correct!
說的很對。
China is trying to escape the middle income trap as well
中國也正在試圖擺脫中等收入陷阱
@H p China is a special case with over a billion people. We cannot use conventional economic indicators to judge them. Moreover, they use a unique economic approach (capitalism & socalism). That is why most American specialists always have wrong prediction about China economics.
中國人口超過了十億，是一個特例。我們不能用傳統(tǒng)的經(jīng)濟指標來判斷他們。而且他們的經(jīng)濟制度非常獨特（資本主義加社會主義）。這就是為什么大部分美國專家總是無法正確預(yù)測中國經(jīng)濟的原因
@Kalas2 why does population or economic model matters. We are taking about gdp per capita. Not who has the biggest economy in the world. The ultimate goal is became a high income country. China Gdp per capita is about $10,000 , similar to malaysia.
為什么人口和經(jīng)濟模式很重要？我們現(xiàn)在討論的是人均gdp，而不是誰是世界最大的經(jīng)濟體。最終的目標是要成為高收入國家。中國的人均gdp大約在一萬美元左右，和馬來西亞差不多。
@H p It is just an opinion. I think we should have more indicators to judge the country's wealth. The GDP per capita can be used to roughly classify whether a country is in low, middle, or high income but it fails to reflect sustainability.
這只是我的個人看法。我認為我們應(yīng)該用更多的指標去判斷一個國家的財富，人均gdp可以粗略的劃分一個國家的收入情況（低等收入國家，中等收入國家，高等收入國家），但它無法反映經(jīng)濟的可持續(xù)性。
IMF and World Bank definition of a high income country : GDP per Capita of US$12,236 Chinese GDP per Capita is now more than US$13,000. They have already escaped the middle income trap.
國際貨幣基金組織和世界銀行對高收入國家的定義：人均gdp達到12236美元。中國人均gdp已經(jīng)超過13000美元。他們已經(jīng)擺脫中等收入陷阱。
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Malaysia will become the next high income in ASEAN for sure. It's already at US$12,000 now, by next year or latest 2-3 years it will be there.
馬來西亞肯定可以成為東盟下一個高收入國家，馬來西亞現(xiàn)在的人均gdp為12000美元，再過一年，最遲再過兩三年，馬來西亞就會成為高收入國家。
Yes...vietnam is really on a strong economic uptick right now, while philippines is in trouble.
越南現(xiàn)在的經(jīng)濟增長勢頭強勁，而菲律賓卻陷入了困境
Philippjnes is not in trouble, Philippines is progressing faster, infact Philippines have the highest GDP growth in whole ASEAN countries.
菲律賓沒有陷入困境，菲律賓進步得更快，事實上菲律賓的GDP增速是所有東盟國家里面最高的
Healthy competition make us better & stronger ASEAN!
良性競爭可以讓我們東盟變得更好更強